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Indie Release [Level 4]
I Cant Stand It Any More!!! :o
if only there where a disco radio station, or a disco hour on VH1
somthing....anyone know a link to disco videos? disco radio?
thanks
sonic.
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You're not the only one, believe me! A long time ago I could really enjoy watching MTV or TMF, to hear and see the new stuff.Originally Written by djsonic
Nowadays those stations are banned because when you look at them 1 hour you have 80% (C)rap music and total uninspired R&B rip offs,10% overhyped Rockbands who just imitate the good ol' stuff from the seventies but without adding something to it and the other 10% is music made for kiddies.
People who are really interested in SONGS are neglected. BTW, I buy products, so dear marketeers, if you really want to sell something to me: I AM NOT WATCHING that bull! So I can not be influenced by all of you newyuppieswithnotastewhatsoeveremptyheadedoverpaye dslickricks.
MMMh, what a relief that's invading my old-fashioned body. Thank you Bernie for giving us the opportunity to speak out and tell the world about it
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GENERATION X are the ones who are responsible for all of this TRASH
Somebody needs to round all of them up, isolate them out on an island far far away, so they can only poison each other with their god awful version of popular culture, music, style etc...
Thanks to them today's popular culture has turned into a landscape of disposable entertainment
The world will be a better place without them. The younger generations might be able to salvage what little is left and possibly get things going in the right direction again
Indie Release [Level 4]
Every other genre almost died... but this CRAP will never end.
Indie Release [Level 4]
I can't stand hip hop or rap or anything similar to it! I wish it never started! Hip hop encourages you to lie, steal, and cheat! It encourages you to take illegal drugs! It encourages you to fight and cause trouble to innocent people! Just listen to the lyrics. I told this to someone and he just smiled and walked away!
I can go on and on...
Ok, rap did take (or borrow) disco grooves and beats. All it is today is recycled music (notice a '70s tune?) with lyrics I don't even understand! I understand disco much better!
The other reason I don't like hip hop is the artists themselves. 99% of them have no talent! They hope the youth will buy their records and make them repeat every rap out loud! This isn't just about children living in the projects; it's every child that gets their minds affected by this garbage!
Does anyone agree with what I said? I hope so!
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It was tolerable until MTV and the big labels took it over. It was also popular in the 1980's but to a lesser extent. Ever since around 1997 things have gone downhill. Nothing but stereotypes, gimmicks and marketing schemes, radio payola, staged beefs encounters between artists .It is no longer fresh. Notice that I only reference it by the word it. Very sad what has happened to it recently. What is even more sad is that in New York City we now have the teenage descendants of the originators of it walking around under BET's and MTV's spell. Not all of them but most of them. The streets no longer dictate what is hot the corporate suits and ties dictate what is hot and popular.
Indie Release [Level 4]
It is so true and I totally agree with everything above. We must EDUCATE this new generation!!! This new generation with its recycled music and they don't even know where it comes from. I am old-school to the bone and ride around blasting my music while my kids beg me to play something else. I tell them who is singing it, who wrote it, who produced it, etc. and how what they listen to now can't even compare. Whenever there is a re-make of something I tell them who the original artist was and let them know how in this day and time hardly anything that is popular is original. :roll:
I have teen-aged sons and I had them listening to Enchantment one night in the car and I said "listen to the words of this song. this is what you need to be saying to your girlfriends. they don't make songs like these no more." And they were really listening!
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Let's organize a (C)Rap CD burning day at Comiskey Park in Chicago during the '06 baseball season!!!!!! :D
Gold Record [Level 7]
LOL LOL I couldnt agree more...however we would all be outnumbered. This crap **** will never end, theres no hope...everyone into it...well the youths anyhow
Indie Release [Level 4]
Hip Hop and Rap to me are two very different things.
Rap is all about the rapper and all the egotistical bullshit that goes with it. Its pop music with a degree of credibility really and would be best represented by 50 Cent, Eminem, Dr Dre
Hip hop on the other hand is all about music and the DJ combining with a good rapper for the sake of good music. It would be best personified on a record by the likes of De La Soul & A tribe called quest
The main difference for me with them aside from the quality in music would be Hip Hop was all about release from the problems of the ghetto, where as rap music seems to whine incessantly about them.
As for beyonce and all the other so called RnB artists, it really is pop music and (Ill probably be slated for saying this) I find a lot of these singers use the fact that they are black to class themselves as RnB when their music is no more RnB than NSync
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That's where it all started, when executives were stuffing us with these products and told us that this was Dance music or even worse the new Disco. Never liked one song by them but da youth of today is apparently bewitched by non-music.
Discoman's idea? Why not, let's hit them back for what they've done to us in the late seventies! And, no, the burning of the Discorecords was not THE event. It were the recordfirms who started to indoctrinate the buyers with inferior bull IMHO.
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The kids seem to love it though. :( Whenever I go to a bar or club playing rap or r'n'b these days the punters seem to be really into it. It's a shame 'cos I was always pissed off that r'n'b in the 70s & 80s wasn't more popular when it was really good, but now it's crap everyone seems to be into it! :-? (I'll never understand this world).
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There's still good R&B and hip-hop out there (personally, I'm not a hip-hop head - I'm more about the R&B), though for the most part, you'd be hard pressed to find it without digging a bit.. With the way things are going, at some point hip-hop might mirror what happened to disco in the late 70s: record labels saturating the market, overexposure. I don't think there'll be the same major backlash though (at least not until grandmas start taking hip-hop dance lessons :P). I guess like disco it's here to stay and sooner or later it'll have to evolve from the hyper-macho, violent bling-bling stuff that's happening now..
Indie Release [Level 4]
Most music genres are considered morally ill.
Harlem Jazz Renaissance era of the 20's
American Rock and Roll era 50's
Rock music of the protest era 60's
Disco music of the 70's
Rap current era.
all had there de(spisers)___ and as far as the copy argument__ most historically known speakers and writers are quilty of plagiarism; ie MLK, Lincoln, Roosevelt, and the like. Modern technology allows todays artist to skillfully plagiarize and give rhythms and harmonies new aural context. I'm not a huge fan of popular/crossover infuenced rap and the like, that's being forced down our throats by plutocratic institutions___ but we must give props to these lyrical poets of today, with the incredible agglomeration of iambic sylablization combined with assonantal, consonantal conjulity layered with enjamental syncopation and polished off with eloquent sophisticated prose___ not that easy when ya' break it down to the break of dawn
super d(motordetroit) 8)
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being a teenager in college, naturally I LOVE disco. However, when I do a party I play those cheesy annoying commercial hip hop hits because lets face it disco could never go with an 18 crowd. I think the reason why hip hop got dominated is because some of the hip hop is catchy, and the beats are unique to crowds who know nothing about sampling. Not only that but most of the rock now sucks and the whole dance scene of the 90s eventually collapsed into techno. When I check the dance section now in a commercial store, I rarely find a disco album or collection. 80% of the stuff is usually techno/trance. Even now and then I like to create hip hop beats with disco/funk samples because there fun to do. Interestingly enough I just heard a new one with the Ying Yang Twins called Shake that features the sample from George Kranz - Din Din Daa.
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I think you are giving props to the wrong era. Perhaps props were deserved back in the late 80's and early 90's when rappers were actually saying something that was relevant. Today 99.9% of these rappers in the mainstream are nothing but hired negros selling black stereotypes and black death for their corporate slave masters.but we must give props to these lyrical poets of today, with the incredible agglomeration of iambic sylablization combined with assonantal, consonantal conjulity layered with enjamental syncopation and polished off with eloquent sophisticated prose___ not that easy when ya' break it down to the break of dawn
Indie Release [Level 4]
Spot on thereI think you are giving props to the wrong era. Perhaps props were deserved back in the late 80's and early 90's when rappers were actually saying something that was relevant. Today 99.9% of these rappers in the mainstream are nothing but hired negros selling black stereotypes and black death for their corporate slave masters.
Indie Release [Level 4]
It easily could, but its really a case of testing the water to find out. They cant know whether or not they like something unless theyve heard it so the next time your playing give it a shot. If it doesnt work, at least you have tried.
From my experience of playing out, Ive found people always react more to disco than other music like house & techno.
Rap music holds the status it does because like commercial disco of the late 70's, its catchy and repetitive but unlike disco it doesnt come with the baggage of being stereotyped as gay music and all the homophobia that came with it and as such affords a credibility to people who want to look like they have a bit of an edge about them, without actually having one, hence the fact that the majority of people who buy and listen to 50 cent and mainstream rap are middle to upper class suburban white teens.I think the reason why hip hop got dominated is because some of the hip hop is catchy, and the beats are unique to crowds who know nothing about sampling.
I think thats rubbish really, there is plenty of good house music out there today, its just a case of digging a bit deeper to find it.Not only that but most of the rock now sucks and the whole dance scene of the 90s eventually collapsed into techno. When I check the dance section now in a commercial store, I rarely find a disco album or collection. 80% of the stuff is usually techno/trance.
Indie Release [Level 4]
I think you are giving props to the wrong era. Perhaps props were deserved back in the late 80's and early 90's when rappers were actually saying something that was relevant. Today 99.9% of these rappers in the mainstream are nothing but hired negros selling black stereotypes and black death for their corporate slave masters.[/quote]
Depends on what rap you listen too. Like any music genre you had good/ bad, better and worse and so on. There is Jazz that I don't like, R&B, Rap, House, Techno, Disco, ___
99.9% are hired negroes? :o that's a little sensational don't ya thank! :x __
Misogynism, malaproprism, sensationalism, sexism ,violence, play'in the dozens and controversy, has always been a commodity in the entertainment biz.
as far as the 80's 90's rap__ remember NWA, Ghetto Boys, To Live Crew, etc.
Bottom line, you will always have 'undesirables' with'in the biz and we should never dis' there artistic freedom whether we like it or not.
super d(motordetroit) 8)
Indie Release [Level 4]
amazing....
i could replace the words rap or hip-hop with disco and this could be something from the late 70's...
Today 99.9% of these rappers in the mainstream are nothing but hired negros selling black stereotypes and black death for their corporate slave masters.
that's a stupid narrowminded statement....
Gold Record [Level 7]
some of it is tolerable... I can get into the groove... west coast style is not so violent and better for dancing.
because I'm a mobile jock I have to deal with it & at my age I starting to lose touch. However some of my nephews can help me stay on top. But by the time I get into and like it... it's considered old. lol
I've always liked the lower beats to begin with... so maybe I can stomach it a little more than some of you.
can you imagine me at a hip-hop sight. I'd be talking ghetto... "what's up homie g" flmao..
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As funfairs here were getting more and more violent, over the last years I even had to hire security day and night, a lot of collegues and myself very recently have decided to NOT play extreme Techno/House and Hip Hop anymore and to replace it by Old Skool (mainly vintage Disco).
Result: the gangs stay away coz' they think it's not cool to hang around on the "Old" music. Result: the violence has dropped with almost 70%!!!!!! Result: parents and kids are safe and return in masses to the attractions. Youngsters are now singing along with the groovy tunes and are dancing again (and spending, which a lot of those toughies didn't). Result: (almost) everybody's happy!
So, that proves to me personally that the agressive Hip Hop, Techno and even (sometimes) RNB music has an tremendous effect on today's youth and their undisciplined and childish behaviour.
The same goes for Belgian clubs. The ones that play the tough stuff are pools of drugdealers, criminals and gangsters. The ones that play 70's and 80's are very successful, attract a lot of crowds and are putting the F of Fun back on the floors
Indie Release [Level 4]
I'm sorry, WHAT will ever end.....????
Underground Hit [Level 5]
Twenty six years later, Rap Music is the genre for the youth!
There are some of us who can tolerate with 50 Cents, Mike Jones and Kanye West, just to name a few.
The 99.9 % comment was one which didn't take much thought into it.
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