KONGAS Vs. MACHO

**QUINNY** · September 22nd, 2005, 03:12 AM

I admit to being ultra ignorant on these bands and their respective detail, but does anyone know if there was any case of 'A' ripping off/using the same backing tracks as 'B' in the case of Kongas Africanism/Gimme Some Lovin' and Macho I'm A Man.

Always had the two as coming from completely different camps, but to all intents and purposes they are virtually identical. Was this another case of Cerrone ripping/collaborating on both or being ripped off by an ex-collaborator who got shirty with him over something?

**Ysl** · September 25th, 2005, 11:37 AM

The Cerrone track came some years before I think but I cannot believe malavasi/romani riiped some other's song, they are too talented for that !!

But it's obvious the 2 tracks are almost the same....

**QUINNY** · September 26th, 2005, 02:35 AM

Macho did get a release after Kongas, but the similarities are so overwhelming it's as if Malavasi had Kongas playing in one ear as he was making I'm A Man. Almost as if it was the same multitrack master tape, only re-recorded on a few of the tracks. The horn stabs are chillingly similar and I don't remember hearing them played in that way, on anything else.

If he didn't deliberately try to mimick the Kongas sound, I'll be a proverbial Dutchman's uncle. It seems impossible that these two tracks could have been made, completely independently of each other.

**TheLordOfFlatbush** · October 26th, 2005, 08:29 AM

Macho wins this round hands down..

Honorable Mention - Peter Jacques Band

**Disco Funk** · October 26th, 2005, 09:56 PM

I'm not a fan of either track. If you're comparing Kongas as a whole to Macho, then Kongas wins for sure. Their debut LP, which was later remixed by Tom Moulton, is a dancefloor classic. I wondered what inspired Cerrone and Kongas to do an LP of jungle/tribal disco? Were there other songs before that with a similar sound? I can only think Tribe's 'Coke', but that was more native american sounding.

Disco Funk

**QUINNY** · October 27th, 2005, 02:07 AM

I see this has developed into a "which one do you prefer?" and that was not the intention. :cry:

As for Tribal.......Cerrone wouldn't have known he was making a 'tribal' record when he recorded Kongas. So far as I'm concerned, it's more rock inspired than anything else and possibly shows his truest colours.

**Disco Funk** · October 27th, 2005, 06:43 AM

Originally Written by QUINNY

As for Tribal.......Cerrone wouldn't have known he was making a 'tribal' record when he recorded Kongas. So far as I'm concerned, it's more rock inspired than anything else and possibly shows his truest colours.

True. I think perhaps he was doing his own version of Barrabas' 'Wild Safari'. Perhaps that's the first tribal jungle dancefloor/disco track, as it was made in '72.

Disco Funk

**efunk_adelic** · October 27th, 2005, 05:48 PM

Kongas!!!

I believe I ranked one of the cuts DR. DOO-WAH on my top 200. I loved the fact that the Congas were up front over anything else...

**TheLordOfFlatbush** · October 29th, 2005, 11:56 AM

Originally Written by Disco Funk

I'm not a fan of either track. If you're comparing Kongas as a whole to Macho, then Kongas wins for sure. Their debut LP, which was later remixed by Tom Moulton, is a dancefloor classic. I wondered what inspired Cerrone and Kongas to do an LP of jungle/tribal disco? Were there other songs before that with a similar sound? I can only think Tribe's 'Coke', but that was more native american sounding.

Disco Funk

Tribe - Coke was a classic!

Wow! Danny Krivit re-edit was cool!!!!!!!!!!