Connecting the dots : precursor to "MORE MORE MORE"

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You know how there are those certain songs that you can hang on a hook all by themselves ..... they are just that different from any other releases at the time or anything coming before them ....."SHAME " and "DISCO HEAT " come to mind .

Well, one in particular to me has always been "MORE MORE MORE " by the Andrea True Connection ...just nothing else like it ( other than her own follow- ups) ...

Until today .

I was listening to a mix and I heard within it an instrumental portion that I didn't know but suspected it was someting from an Andrea True album.
Nope.

The song turns out to be : " GIRL YOU NEED A CHANGE OF MIND " by Eddie Kendricks ....1973!! ....three years earlier than Miss True ....

I like connecting the dots ...... :D
Give it a listen and see if you agree...........

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----- If anyone is interested and is unfamiliar with the Eddie Kendricks song .... it can be heard on the following mix . Some of the chicken fetchin' "HOLLYWOOD HOT " is on there too .......


http://www.brumm.com/gaylib/disco/discolist5.html



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[Mixmachine]

I don't know, but I can’t pick up any "More More " similarities, especially if you listen to the complete original ’72 Kendricks recording, to begin with there is not a single cow bell to be found :lol: The original recording is available on “Give your body up” Vol #3

http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/2648_0_2_0_C/

[marmite7]

I sorta think I know where you're coming from!! :-?


Take Dee-Lite's - Groove Is In The Heart for example.

Everyone knows the original "hook" is Herbie Hancock - Bring Down The Birds, but on (re)listening to Vernon Burch's funky monster "Get Up" (1979), there's that distinctive "sliding pipe" sample! Is this where they got it from, or did Vernon copy it from somebody else?

Know what I mean?

[originalbigm]

I listened to it and yes I can here some vague similarities between the two but it's a stretch. "More,More,More was written and conceived by Gregg Diamond and unless he had some subliminal influence due to previous knowledge of this song the vagaries are pure coincidence.

From 70's disco:
"Resourcefully True called on Gregg Diamond to come down to Jamaica with a music track so that, in effect, she could launder her money and transport it out of the country in the form of a master tape containing her first record. Diamond, born outside of Philadelphia, in Bryn Pennsylvania had studied percussion and theory at Deckle School of Music, and had spent years on the road as a drummer for everyone from Joey Dee, to Jobriath, to James Drown, He'd only recently made the decision to leave the road, concentrate on his piano and start writing songs, when he cut a track in a studio owned by the son of Les Paul, with himself on piano and percussion, two of his show-band compatriots, Steve Love on guitar and Jim Gregory on bass, and his brother Godfrey on drums and engineering, The session cost $400 and was earmarked for a movie called The Elm Streets.

Never having heard Andrea sing, Diamond arrived in Jamaica with that multi-track tape and no lyrics, In an hour he wrote "More, More, More," and during the course of the next day, bumped into the entourage of calypso legend Mighty Sparrow in a hotel lobby, and recruited the horn section to come in for overdubs at Federal Studios in Kingston. Basic costs of the song ran a total of $1400. Diamond's lawyer arranged a deal with Duddah Records in New York, and Tom Moulton was commissioned to remix the track.

What emerged from the remix at Philadelphia's Sigma Sound Studio turned out to be one of disco's signature moments, The influence of Silver Convention and the earlier breathier Donna Summer is apparent in the overall production concept of the album, But the unmistakable New York funk is there, in its slow syncopation - claven, as percussionist Diamond puts it - its nasty, rock-hard bottom, and the rhythmic tension that Diamond points out as the critical element of any successful track, Moulton was unaware of Andrea's film career and wondered a bit about the lyric while developing the sonics and structure of the record: "it wouldn't have come out so pretty if I had known what it was about," is his wry comment now,"

[efunk_adelic]

whatever the case.... both songs are classics

[Mixmachine]

It’s depressing sometimes to see how “Disco” is used for ridicule or/and as a punch line by comedians in today’s media, The other night Conan O’brian had a small sketch with five white super fat ugly hairy males acting gay and wearing nothing else but “fruit of the loom” shorts and posing as super models pretending to be the new ad campaign for some national “soap” brand I believe, while they were on stage the song playing was the original “More , More More” ,every one was laughing up a storm, and it was kind of funny I’d admit, but it was also saddening to see the distorted “perception” middle America has of Disco in general. Oh well, C'est la vie..