The Democrat's Democracy?

[Videoskooter]

No this is not filmed in China or some obscure banana republic but in the US of A. This is how a student is treated when he asks Johnny Kerry Ketchup some questions at a meeting. Great democracy Democratic style!

I'm waiting for the moment Hilarious Clintone is asked a question she doesn't like! Smokin' Billy will probably beat the crap out of the guy!



Edit: full version-different angle:

[remicks]

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You know what pisses me off most ??

WHY IN THE HELL isn't John Kerry saying:

"I WANT YOU TO LET GO OF THAT YOUNG MAN RIGHT NOW !!!!!!"

answer ... because he is quite happy to let the little guy asking too many questions ... to be shut up by the police ... none of these mainstream politicians are a part of the answer ... they are all a part of the problem ....

Big Brother may be luring over us on every street corner ...in every store... ... in almost any situation these days .....

but the good side of that ....Big Brother gets filmed too .....


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[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by remicks

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You know what pisses me off most ??

Is WHY IN THE HELL isn't John Kerry saying:

Great Remmy, that's the discussion I wanted to open! He's a senator right?

He could have stopped those cops immediately, asked the student to pose his question again and if he didn't like what he was asked he could give it a spin.

IMO that guy didn't do anything wrong. He didn't insult or anything like that. He just asked something a little provocative. If one can't do that anymore we can't speak of democracy.

This reminds me of the way people were treated in the USSR BITD.

This also reminds of the Kerry weakness. That's why he wasn't elected IMO. He was a very very weak candidate. Clintone would be clever enough to use this in her advantage, make a performance around it. He doesn't and that's a shame for him.

[Videoskooter]

3rd vid where you can clearly hear what the student is asking:



Over here, this is headline news!

WHY ISN'T NOBODY AND I MEAN NOBODY IN THAT HALL REACTING? COMFORTABLY NUMB?

[discokicks]

I think it should be noted that according to a news release from the Associated Press....

As two officers take Meyer by the arms, Kerry, D-Mass., can be heard saying, "That's all right, let me answer his question."

and....

As Kerry tells the audience he will answer the student's "very important question," Meyer yells at the officers to release him, crying out, "Don't Tase me, bro," just before he is shocked by the Taser. He is then led from the room, screaming, "What did I do?"

as well....

....after he asks Kerry about impeaching President Bush and whether he and Bush were both members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University.

This is a troubling incident but it's certainly not a Democrat-exclusive incident.

[paul]

Truly a sad state we are in.

[paul]

By the way, I'd sue the cops and the school for every god-damn cent I could!

[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by discokicks

I think it should be noted that according to a news release from the Associated Press....

As two officers take Meyer by the arms, Kerry, D-Mass., can be heard saying, "That's all right, let me answer his question."

and....

Yes he does say that, it can be clearly heard on the vids but why isn't he ordering the cops to cool down! He's a Senator, he has the power, not?

As Kerry tells the audience he will answer the student's "very important question," Meyer yells at the officers to release him, crying out, "Don't Tase me, bro," just before he is shocked by the Taser. He is then led from the room, screaming, "What did I do?"

Absolutely, what the hell did he do to get that treatment?

as well....

....after he asks Kerry about impeaching President Bush and whether he and Bush were both members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University.

Skull & Bones is indeed tricky, just read a book about that "fraternity".

This is a troubling incident but it's certainly not a Democrat-exclusive incident.

True, but this is a school, this is a student, this was not a worldwide presidential candidate interview. So, again, why the absolute out of order brutality?.

Originally Posted by paul

Truly a sad state we are in.

By the way, I'd sue the cops and the school for every god-damn cent I could!

If this would have happened in Belgium, certainly under the eye of the camera, those cops would be fired on the spot and sued.

Especially the taser, that's complete out of order use of a weapon. Let's face it, the guy was asking a question, he was not insulting or threatening Kerry, nor did he throw stuff or anything like that. This is a shame and to me it proofs that Kerry is a weak person. If he can't (or won't) command a handful of local cops, he's totally unfit to be President!

BTW, this is illegal in Belgium, even the cops don't carry 1 here, they have pepperspray to neutralise a person:

[remicks]

Originally Posted by discokicks

I think it should be noted that according to a news release from the Associated Press....

As two officers take Meyer by the arms, Kerry, D-Mass., can be heard saying, "That's all right, let me answer his question."

Sorry .....not good enough

and....

As Kerry tells the audience he will answer the student's "very important question," Meyer yells at the officers to release him, crying out, "Don't Tase me, bro," just before he is shocked by the Taser. He is then led from the room, screaming, "What did I do?"

If he's asking a "VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION" ..... why in the hell is he being dragged away by the police ???

And Kerry is so not bothered by this fellow being taken away ...that he goes right on yakking ..... as if it isn't even happening.... or it doesn't matter that it is happening. Hey Kerry ....no need to answer " the very important question" ....the guy that asked can't hear your answer.... ..he's a little busy at the moment being brought to the ground and tazered !!!!!



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..after he asks Kerry about impeaching President Bush and whether he and Bush were both members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University.

This is a troubling incident but it's certainly not a Democrat-exclusive incident.

Well I 'd expect this of the elitist Republicans ....but not of the Democrats who pretend to be of the people ..... I do have higher expectations (although not much) of the Democrats.


I tell you what . I LOVE this guy ...getting up there and asking the real questions .. takes balls ....that no one else in this country has . Not the corporate media ... no one ... ( you usually don't have this kind of access ). I'd love to hear him interrogate Bush the same way.

I hope we haven't seen the last of him .... he's got a political future ahead for himself if hopefully he chooses so. And whatever he runs for .... even if it's dog catcher .... I'm sending his campaign a contribution ....

I agree VS this is a very telling incident about John Kerry. He could care less that the guy is being dragged away.
What else is interesting ....a guy who just three years ago was thisclose to being our President !! ... can't even draw enough people to fill one quarter of a room !!!

I wonder how much $$$$$ the University paid him to speak to a hundred and twenty people .

ITS ALL A RACKET !!!!!!!!!!



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[paul]

I am in agreement with remicks and Johan about Kerry. He may have been a war hero but now he's just a punk wanna be JFK politician. Honestly, I never wanted him anyway since I was a Dean man.
Kerry, like a lot of Dems right now are absolutely fucking useless! In fact they worse than the repubs because they are suppose to stand up for the constitution and civil liberties.
It seems the aim of both parties is straight out fascism!

[discokicks]

There's no doubt that this event represents how vile things have become in the US but when a government (and controlled media) continue to create a climate of fear and hatred amongst its people, how can one be surprised with the type of behaviour that happened here?

I am simply reacting to the original intent of this thread making us believe that this is somehow a Democrat-exclusive type thing. Let's not forget how numb and silent the press and media all were during those formative weeks and months leading up to and during the first couple of years of the Iraq war. One wouldn't dare question the actions of Republican rule.

My thinking is that this young man was lucky he didn't try this stunt with a Republican senator speaking at that podium.

[remicks]

Originally Posted by discokicks

One wouldn't dare question the actions of Republican rule.

Sickening isn't it. When and how did we get to be this way.
I'm on the tail end of the hippie era just enough to know that this is exactly what that whole movement tried to warn this country
about.


I just thought of an even more important question that Meyer asked (about fifty times too ) that I think Kerry should have felt was also important enough to address :

" WHAT'D I DO ????"..........................????

The one other thing I wish Myer had done to make all this even more poignant:

I wish he'd directly said

"Senator Kerry, help me! "

..... would the Senator still have been so pacifistic ???


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[needlefingers]

Here’s another tasering incident caught on video



Tasering just exasperates the situation, especially on people who are inebriated or high. Many deaths have occurred.

I believe part of the problem is extending equal opportunity to our police force. In order for a 5’3”, 125lb woman to take down a 6’5” 230lb suspect, 50,000 volts have been added to even the field.

In the Florida incident, there are 5 cops: 2 are women and 1 is an overweight man. It is sad that they weren’t fit enough to arrest one individual. At least when the revolution comes, it will be a cakewalk to overthrow the government.

I’m not saying cops can’t come in all shapes and sizes, but this student was on film, unarmed and not a threat. He wasn’t going anywhere. If there was any repercussion from the university, although I don’t know why there would be, it would have been easy to find him later.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson

[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by discokicks

I am simply reacting to the original intent of this thread making us believe that this is somehow a Democrat-exclusive type thing.

No, that was not the intention. Remicks and Paul got it right: it struck me because we are not used to this oppression by a Democrat. I always read that the Republicans are fascists and that the Democrats are standing up for the people.....well Kerry sure ain't and he almost was the Prez!

And another thing: yesterday I read some boards like the CNN one and what strucks me: only a few people are defending the student. Most repliers state: "if you don't follow the Police orders this is what happens, it's this brat's fault"

Students stunned -- and tired -- about Taser incident - CNN.com