Lurking Conservatives, Please Explain Why U R Against A Public Option

[paul]

Obama is full of it. Look beyond the stylish fluff of the speech. Some of it by the way was insulting to liberals.
It's about mandating useless jackass coverage. This guy sure as hell aint no FDR.
Want proof, note that the shares in HMOs went up after the speech.
Again, this guy is a corporatist. He doesn't give a rat's ass about healthcare.
HMO shares rise after Obama health reform speech | Markets | Hot Stocks | Reuters

[DiscoMan]

You and I are in complete agreement on your points Paul.

He is a corporatist - a "Free Trader", which is why I didn't vote for him.
You didn't swallow his Kool Aid...

And then we have the problem of his friends Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.

[Videoskooter]

Paul, the companies in that link of yours, are they private insurance cies?

[paul]

Originally Posted by Videoskooter

Paul, the companies in that link of yours, are they private insurance cies?

Yes, they are Johan.

[paul]

Originally Posted by DiscoMan

You and I are in complete agreement on your points Paul.

He is a corporatist - a "Free Trader", which is why I didn't vote for him.
You didn't swallow his Kool Aid...

And then we have the problem of his friends Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.

Well I did vote for him because I figured I would get at least a more liberal Supreme appointee. That is only somewhat true. Sotomayor is reportedly pro corporate and as many have said, no liberal.

My principled vote was really for Cynthia McKinney, the Green party candidate. Given the expansion of wars, wall street bailouts while main street can go to hell, secret meetings with pharmaceuticals, health reform designed to put even more money in the hands of insurance companies, etc, would I really have lost that much if McCain won and I stuck with my principled vote? I say no. If nothing else, had all this happened under McCain there'd be a lot more organized opposition from my side of the political spectrum.

[paul]

And if some you liberals/progressives think my rant against Obama is unjustified. This is Obama 5 years ago making a case for single payer universal healthcare.
He appears to be speaking in front of a union, the afl-cio.

YouTube - Obama on single payer health insurance

[DiscoMan]

By the way I protest the use of my name as the title of a thread. As we live by the double standard on this BB this targeted abuse must be acceptable...?

[remicks]

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discoman:
He is a corporatist - a "Free Trader", which is why I didn't vote for him.
You didn't swallow his Kool Aid...

Oh yes .....I'm sure the reason you didn't vote for Obama was because he was so much more of a free trading corporatist than Mc Cain

Originally Posted by DiscoMan

By the way I protest the use of my name as the title of a thread. As we live by the double standard on this BB this targeted abuse must be acceptable...?

Bernie or Johan, please remove discoman's name from the thread's title or reword it as you see fit . I apologize for my presumption discoman . I thought you'd relish the discourse and I really had hopes of hearing some sort of logical counter argument from you ...
.... as well as from anyone else of such persuasion.
( STILL WAITING !)




(For the record:
I could care less if anyone includes my name in any of their thread titles whatever the reason )



Now, could I please encourage postings that focus on the intended TOPIC as specifically laid out ?????



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[Videoskooter]

Remmy, I'll edit the thread title.

Discoman, there's no double standard on this board. You have published your opinion and others have discussed it. Your opinion is as valuable as the views of the other members. So, I don't see the problem.

[DiscoMan]

Thank you Video...In the past Bernie's given me heartburn for things he's let slide by from others.

Remicks, you are obsessed with a "public option"; I've presented a very strong argument gainst one. You don't accept the validity of any of my points, you never will; so what's the point?

I don't know how many times I have to say this: I am not a conservative, I am not a Republican, I did not vote for Sen McCain (Ralph Nader). I just don't live in the orthodox liberal echo chamber...