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Simmering Undertone of Violence In Our Politics Seems To Be Getting Darker

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Old August 24th, 2009, 07:04 PM
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From The New York Times:

OP-ED COLUMNIST: The Guns of August

The simmering undertone of violence in our politics seems to be getting darker.

No, the biggest contributor to this resurgence of radicalism remains panic in some precincts about a new era of cultural and demographic change. As the sociologist Daniel Bell put it, “What the right as a whole fears is the erosion of its own social position, the collapse of its power, the increasing incomprehensibility of a world — now overwhelmingly technical and complex — that has changed so drastically within a lifetime.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/23/opinion/23rich.html
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We conveniently forget all of the hatred, vitriol, attempts at personnal destruction and so on and so forth directed at the Bush administration during its eight years in power, those Americans who disagree with the liberal persuasion. Or those Americans who don't agree with the Anointed One and the national socialist policies of the current administration and party in power.

Frank Rich is a partisan empty barrel and one of the worst of the baiters of the last administration.

Rich's "opinion" rings hollow and is a bold faced example of the politics of separation and keeping the left-wing haters hating. Be carefull what you wish for, you just may get it.

At least it's on the OP Ed page...

Ditto for Bell.
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Old August 25th, 2009, 03:06 PM
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DM, I don't agree with your analogy here.
First off, if you managed to protest out of the free speech zone (remember that) at bush or his war policies, you better not wear anti-war clothing. They'd arrest you!
By the way, how is it that showing up with guns at a political event is cool but exercising your free speech with clothing get's you arrested?
It's a mad house, a mad house!

As for the Annointed One, I wish he were truly socialist like Bernie Sanders!
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Old August 25th, 2009, 03:29 PM
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"Anointed One" is a label from the right...the left does not see Obama as that. In fact, he had to work for the Democrats backing.

And Bush got everything he wanted, and with Democrat support:

Education Bill, 2 Wars, Patriot Act, Supreme Court Judges, Medicare Prescription Drug Program, Wall Street Bailout, All Budgets including Supplemental Budgets, Deficit Spending....

He would have gotten Harriet Miers and an Immigration Bill if his own party did not stop it.
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Old August 25th, 2009, 05:43 PM
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Needlefingers, say what you want about republicans, they get their agenda through.
Even looking at the Harriet Miers thing, Bush responded to his base.

Conversely, these god damn democrats find every excuse under the sun for failure. Add to that they sure as hell don't give a rat's ass what their base wants or thinks!
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Old August 25th, 2009, 05:56 PM
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I'm having a hard time supporting Democrats too. Especially since, now that they are in the majority, they should be getting their projects through.

And I think Obama is making two mistakes.

Hoping to work with Republicans ...

and

Not putting forth his own health plan. He has left it to Congress who is led by lobbyists.

But the thread is about the violence undertone on the right, to which DM never fails to use any thread to spread a hateful message against liberalism.
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Yeah, I hear ya DM.
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The democRats shouldn't be concerned with "armed right wing extremists". Bill Clinton and Janet Reno set the democRat precedent for dealing with "right wing extremists" at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

The democRats ceased being the loyal opposition and the party of the urban working man during the Vietnam War. For the past forty years they have been nothing more than a screeding, hysterical cabal, of arrogant ivy league lawyers who embrace every half-a***d (double standard edit here) left wing idea that comes down the pike. I was a democRat...who got mugged.

Back to my original point, Rich is a hypocrite and left wing hater and an example of why myself and many other ex-NYT readers stopped reading that collection of lies and distortions years ago.
 

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