Liberal, Conservative, Statist, Libertarian

[paul]

I've received this little quiz a few times now. Guess what...I'm liberal :-o
Here was my score

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=9&e=3

If you're interested, here's a link to this quick quiz.

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

[DiscoMan]

Paul baby...couldn't get the link to work. My test results are "Libertarian".

[paul]

Originally Posted by DiscoMan

Paul baby...couldn't get the link to work. My test results are "Libertarian".

Oopsi. I fixed it. Thanks

[Bernie]

Just did mine and here is mine (no surprise)... LIBERTARIAN.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 80%.

[Boodikka]

Interesting. I consider myself a centrist/ left-of-center moderate, but I show up here as a right-of-center Libertarian.
IRL I'm leftist on social issues (pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-animal rights. etc.). I'm an economic moderate (don't believe in throwing money at social issues, just doesn't work). I'm probably left-of-center on foreign policy (can't stand the Blame America First crowd or the jingoistic pinheads). However, on issues such as violent crime, I'm somewhere to the right of Hammurabi.
I'd like to see a really in-depth type of quiz of this type.

[Salsoul1975]

I'm Libertarian. No surprise there. What I am surprised by is how my dot is on the left-hand side, and I don't consider myself a Leftist by any means.

[Videoskooter]

Hi Paul,



Very accurate :o

[markydefad]

I'm a LIBERAL. I'm stunned by this revelation. :o:-P


Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 40%.

[eddie]

I'm right on the line between statist and right conservative as my 2 biggest political influences are Pat Buchanan and Louis Farakhan.

I'm an extreme social conservative who is against Nafta/Gatt and most 'free' and unbalanced trade. I'm against abortion and gun control under any circumstances. I don't believe their should be public schools because they are a failure. The federal government needs to give vouchers to religious schools and also promote these vouchers as reparations for slavery and dig deep into Democratic backfield. Home schooling should also be encouraged and having both parents in the workforce should be highly discouraged. I also believe in creating a theocracy where religious values are also state values. I'm also a military isolationist and insist on formal apologies to Italy, Afganistan, Iraq, and the continent of Africa.

Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt, and Nixon were protectionists in regards to trade and endorsed policies that favored the the country and auto workers. Todays neo-con Republicans like Bush, favor an open market which leads to outsourcing and a service-only driven economy. However, renewing most favored nation status to China does not supposedly support neo-cons social conservative/pro-Christian stance but they sold out.

However, the issue of gun control on this survey had not cropped up. In Europe, conservatives want gun control and in the US and the Islamic nations, conservatives are strongly against gun control. I also believe in relying less on tradional police forces especially in urban areas. I support the Reverand Al Sharpton's belief that policing is best done but people who live in that municipality exclusively. (ie You must live in New York City to be a cop there.) Minister Louis Farakhan's initiative that allowed the Nation of Islam to patrol their communities would be most effective which is a semi-liberterian anti-fed element.

It gets into another point where this scale is a bit flawed. Can you be statist (fascist specifically) and somewhat liberterian at the same time? Under Mussolini's model, that was the third faction after the social conservatives and workers who believed corporations were caving to foreign interests.

[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by eddie

I'm an extreme social conservative who is against Nafta/Gatt and most 'free' and unbalanced trade. I'm against abortion and gun control under any circumstances

I'm also against that global trade nonsense. Uptil now, nothing and I mean nothing has made me change my mind about it. The goal to have a global energy company f.e. is total bull and extremely dangerous. I'm 100% against gun control but I differ on the abortion issue. It is legal IMO when the life of the mother is in danger or when she is raped. In other cases it's a no go!

Originally Posted by eddie

I don't believe their should be public schools because they are a failure

Absolutely, stateschools are failures. In my country people who want to give their children a good education, send 'em to Catholic schools, and those become more and more successful.

Originally Posted by eddie

I also believe in creating a theocracy where religious values are also state values

I agree on the values issue but I strongly believe that separation of church and state is the best! Religion is a personal right and a personal choice. And how are you personally going to make the choice between the religion of Buchanan and the one from Farrakhan? In other words, should America be evangelical or islamic????

Originally Posted by eddie

Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt, and Nixon were protectionists in regards to trade and endorsed policies that favored the the country and auto workers. Todays neo-con Republicans like Bush, favor an open market which leads to outsourcing and a service-only driven economy. However, renewing most favored nation status to China does not supposedly support neo-cons social conservative/pro-Christian stance but they sold out

Agree. That's where I completely disagree with the Bush administration policy

Originally Posted by eddie

In Europe, conservatives want gun control and in the US and the Islamic nations, conservatives are strongly against gun control. I also believe in relying less on tradional police forces especially in urban areas. Minister Louis Farakhan's initiative that allowed the Nation of Islam to patrol their communities would be most effective which is a semi-liberterian anti-fed element

In Belgium Socialists and Lefties are supporting guncontrol. The conservative parties don't. They belief in the right of self-defense. So do I. Over the last weeks we had the problem here of gangsters that were released after 1/3 of their prison-sentence.

Our leftist leaders seem to forget that their victims are dead or they have to live with the trauma for the rest of their lives. If someone threatens the sanctity of your home or your relatives, you deal with him the hard way. I've done it twice and I'm not proud of it but I don't feel sorry for those hoodlums either. I really don't get the pathetic lefties' idea of considering the criminals as victims of society and a whole lot of Belgians agree with us. That's why our nation is rapidly swifting to the right side. Belgians have enough of the red criminals and their moronic views on society. It didn't work and it will never work. Being a citizen equals having responsibility otherwise you create chaos and disorder

[discokicks]

Originally Posted by Videoskooter

I'm 100% against gun control but I differ on the abortion issue. It is legal IMO when the life of the mother is in danger or when she is raped. In other cases it's a no go!

Absolutely, stateschools are failures. In my country people who want to give their children a good education, send 'em to Catholic schools, and those become more and more successful.

In Belgium Socialists and Lefties are supporting guncontrol. The conservative parties don't. They belief in the right of self-defense. So do I. Over the last weeks we had the problem here of gangsters that were released after 1/3 of their prison-sentence.

Just trying to add up these ideas of yours VS.....

So what you're saying is that abortion should be totally illegal for those mothers who don't want a child in their life so then they must face the task of raising this unwanted human....and government-run schools shouldn't exist meaning caring parents would take care of the education of their young. One would have to wonder if we can trust the education that a mother of an unwanted child will provide.

And within this scenario, there shouldn't be gun control....every human should have the right to carry a gun....even the unwanted child with little or no education.

So it's wrong to abort an unwanted life but when this child grows up to be a nuisance to society, it will be alright to shoot them.:???:

[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by discokicks

Just trying to add up these ideas of yours VS.....
So what you're saying is that abortion should be totally illegal for those mothers who don't want a child in their life so then they must face the task of raising this unwanted human....and government-run schools shouldn't exist meaning caring parents would take care of the education of their young. One would have to wonder if we can trust the education that a mother of an unwanted child will provide.

Aren't there ways to prevent women getting pregnant? There's birth-control-pills, there's condoms and other stuff, they do exist you know and I never said I opposed them. So if a man and a woman don't want children it's better they take precautions and then there is no need for an abortion. That's what I'm saying about taking responsability in your life! If you are so against the fact that some people carry a gun, why the f*ck are you promoting the murder of an infant who can not defend it's own life? Total hypocritical bull! The guys I shot were armed (2 Longrifles), threatened my family and their kids. But no, Discokicks, you're right, I should have asked them if they were wanted by their parents.

And if a woman has sex against her will then I call that rape, one of the most disgustings crimes a man can do. Am I clear?. And a woman that chooses not to raise her kid can always regard the possibility of an adoption.

For your point on government-schools: sorry I don't understand what you are trying to say. My point is that (I speak for Belgium you know) the quality of education in those schools is inferior.

Originally Posted by discokicks

And within this scenario, there shouldn't be gun control....every human should have the right to carry a gun....even the unwanted child with little or no education.

So it's wrong to abort an unwanted life but when this child grows up to be a nuisance to society, it will be alright to shoot them.:???:

I said that I'm not against self-defense and I support a controlled possesion of arms (means: registered and after you did a medical, psychological and technical exam, just the way I got my permit). Have you ever been robbed? Has someone ever pointed a gun at your head? Did you ever take a bullet (1 in my shoulder and 1 in my leg)? If not, don't bother, then you don't know what you are talking about!

I don't get what this view has to do with abortion and unwanted children. So what you are saying is: when a criminal appears to be an unwanted child and he commits a crime, he should be pardoned and can not be brought to justice Nice way of organising a society

And why am I attacked and not Eddie who's saying the same? Something personal? Can some members here not stand that there are conservative views on this board? Those are the real fascists, not us!

[Boodikka]

Video, I still love ya, ya pseudo-rightwinger, ya!
Hell, you're a conservative and I don't have you on "Ignore"!

[Videoskooter]

Hey Boodi, I like everybody on this board, nobody's on my ignore-list :-o

I would miss the best parts

I'm always ready to discuss but the stuff Discokicks wrote here was just another example of twisting someone's words in an other direction and then ridiculise 'em without giving arguments.

He doesn't speak about the reason why public schools are failures. Then we could have a discussion. He doesn't speak about the cause of a pregnancy. Then we could have a discussion. He doesn't speak about having the right to protect one's own life. Then we could have a discussion.

He doesn't speak about how a society can help "unwanted children" an support them. Then we could have a discussion.

No, he reads a post, thinks "YUK, a conservative" and twists my words in a way he thinks he can score with some other enlighted spirits. He could say why is pro-abortion, pro public-schools and pro gun-control. He could, then we could have a discussion, but no, a hit-and-run is easier.

That's something I just can't stand!

[paul]

I love all the political angles including conservative, even dare I say it Mix's for the purposes of discussion.
Boodi, Johan may be conservative but there is still good in him. :lol:

Marky, I was beginning to wonder if I was the "lone liberal!"

eddie, how long have you been following Minister Farrakhan and the Nation Of Islam?

Mix, ya gonna take the test?