A bit more of celeb gossip

[Nano]

Well, this forum is growing too serious and need to go back to the thing that got me here... CELEB GOSSIP!!!
Some paper in my country copied this info from U.K.'s The Observer and I checked the source. Seems that ABBA's Anni-Frid had a Nazi father! Or did she?
From the account of The Observer:

"When Abba sang 'Knowing Me, Knowing You', there was one member of the cult Swedish pop group for whom it had a special meaning.
The brunette Anni-Frid Lyngstad is one of thousands of people who grew up in Scandinavia shunned, persecuted and parentless. It is alleged that some were even used as guinea pigs in drugs trials.

Known as the Tyskerbarnas or German children, they were the offspring of Norwegian mothers and German soldier fathers, the result of a Nazi plan to 'enrich' the Aryan gene pool.

Now the group of up to 12,000, of whom many are now in their sixties, plans to fight for compensation in the European Court of Human Rights.

Anni-Frid Lyngstad's story is typical of the suffering of thousands. After her birth in November 1945 - the result of a liaison between her mother, Synni, and a German sergeant, Alfred Haase - the infant's mother and grandmother were branded as traitors and ostracised in their village in northern Norway. They were forced to emigrate to Sweden, where Anni-Frid's mother died of kidney failure before her daughter was two.

The child found her father by chance three decades later. They met for an emotional reunion in her Swedish villa, instigated by Benny Anderson, an Abba founder and Anni-Frid's then husband.

Afterwards, the singer said of the meeting and her father: 'It's difficult... it would have been different if I'd been a teenager or a child. I can't really connect to him and love him the way I would have if he'd been around when I grew up.'

The depression she subsequently suffered was attributed by friends to the delayed encounter with her long-lost father, a retired pastry cook.

The somewhat morose Anni-Frid, who withdrew for years in Greta Garbo style, is nevertheless viewed as something of a role model by her fellow Tyskerbarnas still living in Norway.

'She's achieved amazing things in Sweden, something she would never have been able to do had she stayed in Norway, where she would have been branded a freak,' says Tor Brandacher, 63, spokesman for the organisation representing the children. Founded in 1999, the group, Krigsbarnforbundet Lebensborn, or Source of Life, takes its name from the scheme run by Heinrich Himmler, the leader of Hitler's feared SS, to create a master race.

It has been pursuing its claims for compensation for abuse and discrimination through the domestic courts. The case, involving 122 people, argues that the wartime Norwegian government - led by the notorious Quisling - was complicit in the Nazi scheme to breed with blonde, blue-eyed Norse women. The government asserts that if crimes were committed, they happened too long ago to be dealt with now.

The case is now going to the country's Supreme Court, but the victims and their families are preparing to take it to the European Court of Human Rights. 'Having been rejected by Norway so far, we have little choice but to take our case further afield,' says Brandacher (...).

Most of the Lebensborn children who stayed in Norway are social misfits. Few have received proper education or been employed. 'It's typical that they've suffered from depression and low self-esteem,' says their lawyer, Randi Hagen Spydevold.

'Most have had problems forming relationships or being able to relate to the real world, which is hardly surprising when you've spent your formative years being called a German idiot, a no-good bastard who doesn't deserve to be alive.'

Had Germany won the war, they would almost certainly have been heroes. But Germany lost, and soon afterwards the Norwegian mothers lost their status, and their children were classified as 'rats' by government officials.

The postwar hatred towards the offspring of German soldiers was so great that government psychologists commissioned to report on the children and their mothers concluded that women who had fraternised with Germans were 'of limited talent and asocial psychopaths, some of them seriously backward'.

The verdict 'father was a German' was indictment enough to send children to mental hospitals, where many were tortured and raped. They were deemed to be dangerous because of their 'Nazi genes' and capable of forming a fascist fifth column.

Quisling's government was desperate to be rid of the problem and attempted to send the Tyskerbarnas as far afield as Brazil and Australia. Sweden was praised for taking several hundred and thus relieving Norway of an embarrassing 'problem'. Around 250 were sent 'back' to Germany.

Many thousands of their mothers - labelled 'German whores' - were sent to Norwegian 'concentration camps', where they were virtually slave labourers (...)

But in many ways the most shocking aspect of the whole story is what happened to the children in the homes. In a separate case, Spydevold is attempting to bring the Norwegian government to task over documented evidence of drugs trials carried out on both children and mothers.

Witnesses and documents say experiments with LSD, mescaline and other substances were initiated by the Norwegian military, Oslo University and the CIA (...)."

So... did we have a PSYCHEDELIC NAZI DISCO QUEEN?
This is a case for Marky...

[markydefad]

Fascinating story Nano. I had never heard about that before.

One question: If any member of ABBA was a poster child for blue-eyed blonde Aryan youth--it was Agnetha, NOT Frida!!!! How ironic that the truth was vice versa.

Agnetha could have believably sung "Tomorrow Belongs To Me" in that German beer garden in the film of "Cabaret".

The Nazi's would have been proud to have Agnetha as their poster child, no doubt. Now I realize she's NOT, so don't hate me cause I love ABBA. :lol:

[NickNack]

Interesting story indeed. I have never heard of this. Did you say this was documented and has CIA involvment been proven? I guess injecting this country's black men with syphillis didn't provide enough gratification. (Sorry, story is upsetting. Experimenting on children...)

[Boodikka]

Speaking about Agnetha, is Miss "Blue Eye Shadow" still as nutty as she appeared to be in that documentary run on A&E a couple of years ago?

[paul]

Fascinating story.

[sutnop]

I don't believe they could feel being such an outkast

Since Norweigians are Generally Blonde And BLue eyed Like 75% of the population....

Funny Cause I thought SOuth America
Argentina and Brazil in particular

host post nazi families
WAsn't there that the former officers
were promised amnesty

And have settled down in German collonies?

[sutnop]

On 2002-07-04 19:52, Nano wrote:

Many thousands of their mothers - labelled 'German whores' - were sent to Norwegian 'concentration camps', where they were virtually slave labourers (...)

But in many ways the most shocking aspect of the whole story is what happened to the children in the homes. In a separate case, Spydevold is attempting to bring the Norwegian government to task over documented evidence of drugs trials carried out on both children and mothers.

Witnesses and documents say experiments with LSD, mescaline and other substances were initiated by the Norwegian military, Oslo University and the CIA (...)."

So... did we have a PSYCHEDELIC NAZI DISCO QUEEN?
This is a case for Marky...

Ok even though I thought this article might be a tad bit serious the end prooves it not to be.....
Norweigian Concerntration Camps!??!?!?!?

Please.....
Norway has never had concentraion Camps

The funny thing is the Nazi's aknoghledged That Norways Race was more pure then their own.....
But still they invaded Norway....
wouldn't breedning Norweigan women with German officers make the offspring less Aryan

Then if it was to be two Scandinavians breeding.....

And all this started by the dark eyed and dark haired Hitler.....

If he believed in his own antics he should of castrated himself since he would depurify the Aryan Nation.........

[Nano]

Hey fellas, don't forget I saw this only on "The Observer". Is this paper fiable? It's published by the same fellas that to The Guardian, so it should be. But I'm not a reader of this one and also noted that Agnetha had all qualifications to be the "nazi daughter" (but I always preferred Anni-Frid! I even had her solo record produced by Phil Collins).
Maybe jazz_pilgrim can bring some more news from the Beckham country...
Anyway, don't stop the gossip!