MyPlay.com is shutting down permanently

[disco1999]

Those of you who used myplay.com should gather their files back asap, they are pulling the plug of the "My Locker" feature on Dec13. Napster, AudioGalaxy, MyPlay, next!

[Funky Dude]

FOR FUCK SAKES WHAT MORE DO THESE CORPORATES GONNA DO :evil: :x :evil: :x :evil: :x !!!!! THESE FAT SUIT'N'TIE CIGAR SMOKIN' SHINY BALLED HEADED CORPORATE BLOKES ARE MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO SHARE MUSIC :x :x :x !!! HOW THE BLOODY HELL ARE WE GOING TO DISCOVER MORE AND MORE MUSIC BY THE TRUCKLOAD WHEN THESE CORPORATES ARE STOPPING US!!! NOT ALL OF US CAN AFFORD TO GO OUT AND BUY A SHITLOAD OF RECORDS AND CDs!!! AND NOT ALL RECORDS HAVE BEEN REMASTERED TO CD YET!!! PLUS CERTAIN RECORDS ARE FUCKIN HARD TO FIND :evil: :evil: :evil: !!! A LOT OF THE TIME FOR ME IN AUSTRALIA I HAVE TO GO THROUGH RACKS AND RACKS OF OLD FARTS MUSIC RECORDS AND POP RECORDS I'VE ALREADY GOT TO FIND THE OBSCURE DISCO STUFF :x !!! AND THERE'S FUCK-ALL AT THE CD SHOPS WHERE I LIVE!!! THERE IS NO CHANCE IN HELL THESE CORPORATES ARE GOING TO STOP ME DOWNLOADING MP3s :x :x :x !!!

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH I'M SO PISSED OFF :x :evil: :x :evil: :x :evil: :x :evil: :x :evil: !!!!!!!!!!

[QUINNY]

Funky: You are so precious. Exactly the reply I was waiting to see. What took you so long? :lol:

[Outsider]

Funky Dude, I know exactly how you feel, because I feel the same way about it. :evil:

[BrunoRepublic]

Originally Posted by Funky Dude

FOR FUCK SAKES WHAT MORE DO THESE CORPORATES GONNA DO :evil: :x :evil: :x :evil: :x !!!!!

Just wait and see.

THESE FAT SUIT'N'TIE CIGAR SMOKIN' SHINY BALLED HEADED CORPORATE BLOKES ARE MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO SHARE MUSIC :x :x :x !!!

Well, that's precisely the idea.

HOW THE BLOODY HELL ARE WE GOING TO DISCOVER MORE AND MORE MUSIC BY THE TRUCKLOAD WHEN THESE CORPORATES ARE STOPPING US!!!

They don't want us to discover more music. They want us to only know and buy whatever crap they're marketing right now. The world is looking more and more like something out of an Ayn Rand novel these days, and that in itself is far scarier than any horror flick you could ever imagine.

NOT ALL OF US CAN AFFORD TO GO OUT AND BUY A SHITLOAD OF RECORDS AND CDs!!!

That's okay; soon there will only be about 50 albums in print anyway. "One nation under a groove" indeed --- note that it's a groove, meaning singular.

AND NOT ALL RECORDS HAVE BEEN REMASTERED TO CD YET!!!

Well, if it hasn't been put out on CD, then obviously there can't be much demand for it... and if there isn't much demand for it, then it can't be very good -- at least according to Quinny.

THERE IS NO CHANCE IN HELL THESE CORPORATES ARE GOING TO STOP ME DOWNLOADING MP3s :x :x :x !!!

They may not stop you, but they can certainly curtail your attempts. And they've already succeeded in doing that.

[QUINNY]

What a goose!! What a golden egg!!
C'mon guys are you seriously expecting them to give it away? Please grow up and join the real world. They're selfish, you're selfish.....What's the difference?

[BrunoRepublic]

Originally Posted by QUINNY

What a goose!! What a golden egg!!
C'mon guys are you seriously expecting them to give it away?

No. But if they've stopped selling it altogether, I don't see why they would object to others trading it online. Companies don't lose money on products that they don't offer to begin with.

Please grow up and join the real world. They're selfish, you're selfish.....What's the difference?

Actually Quinny, I don't deal in MP3s -- period. I thoroughly resent the "music should be free!" attitude that Napster gave the world. The closing of various file-sharing and P2P networks will not affect me in the least.

What I object to, is what has effectively been an ongoing campaign for the last 22 years to rewrite musical history, with disco conveniently purged from the records (pun not intended). I would much rather buy a nice CD reissue of an LP instead of spending a week on digitally editing out all the pops and clicks. If there's not enough demand for this sort of music to be commercially issued, then why are they so concerned about piracy of it?

I have over 1200 CDs, and I would love to add to that with replacements for my beat-up second-hand vinyl. But I am not given a choice in this matter.

I also object to the notion that I can't make backup copies for myself of any of the new digital media formats. The industry just didn't learn from the DivX experience -- people will not buy something that they are not allowed to do what they please with.

And this isn't relevant to you, but as a Canadian, I really object the surtax (scheduled to increase again in the new year) that the music industry got slapped on *all* digital media. I pay for this on every CD-R, MiniDisc, DVD-R, etc. that I purchase, regardless of whether I am using it for legal purposes or not -- or if I'm even using it for music! This amounts to the music industry getting money for doing absolutely nothing except whining.

[QUINNY]

What is the surtax on a CDR at $.30 CDN? F*** ALL.

Don't tell me that you wouldn't milk it for all it's worth?
Would you release a reissue with the intent of loosing money or at best re-couping your investment 5 years later (if at all).
If you're so good at cleaning up old discs, why don't you re-issue them? That way you might find out why some things are best left alone.
Records are about making money. If anyone tells you different, they're having a laugh. A business survives only if it makes a profit, otherwise it's adios amigo.
I'm sorry, but you are sooooooooo naive.

[Outsider]

The reason I'm for file sharing services is so that I can discover new music, especially from obscure artists where it's impossible to hear them otherwise. If I like what I hear, then I would buy the albums from those artists, but I'm not going to buy an album if I haven't heard anything from it. It makes perfect sense. I miss Napster the most because they had a Mac version. :evil:

[QUINNY]

You can't possibly miss what you've never had. Do me a favour and grow up. To put another spin on it that's cliche ridden You want your cake and to eat it? Do me a favour and grow up.

[BrunoRepublic]

Originally Posted by QUINNY

You can't possibly miss what you've never had.

No, but you can be aware that there are much better things out there, even though you've never seen or heard them.

Do me a favour and grow up. To put another spin on it that's cliche ridden You want your cake and to eat it? Do me a favour and grow up.

Do us a favour and stop being redundant :P

[BrunoRepublic]

Originally Posted by QUINNY

What is the surtax on a CDR at $.30 CDN? F*** ALL.

First of all, that's not "fuck all", that's a fucking. That cost is added before retailer markup, so that doubles the cost of blank media for some brands. And the proposed rates are double that, starting Jan 1, 2003. They want a levy of $21 per gigabyte for MP3 players, which would price them right out of the market. Secondly, you continue to be eluded by the point -- this is on all CD-Rs, not just music ones. So, if I decide to back up my hard drive to CD-R, and need about 20 discs to do it, then the music industry gets $6 from me for doing absolutely nothing. This is the equivalent of putting a levy on all paper products, because they could be used for printing copyrighted material. Oh, and a printer should have a levy of $400 on it, given all the books and magazines I could copy with it. Gosh.

In most countries, getting money for doing nothing is called Welfare or The Dole. In Canada, it's called being part of the music industry. Hmmm... perhaps I should start my own label, release one single, and then try to get my share of the cash by claiming that MP3s caused my business to fail.

Don't tell me that you wouldn't milk it for all it's worth?

I must admit that if I could force you personally to pay me money every time you backed up a file, I'd certainly go for it. I'd love to get your cash (which you must have a lot of, if you think 30¢ on a CDR is "fuck all"), especially if I didn't have to do a thing for it.

Would you release a reissue with the intent of loosing money or at best re-couping your investment 5 years later (if at all).
If you're so good at cleaning up old discs, why don't you re-issue them? That way you might find out why some things are best left alone.

Again, you demonstrate a brilliant example of denying what my arguement is all about. I *know* it doesn't make any business sense for them to reissue these recordings... so why is it so wrong that I would share them with others?

Records are about making money.

The Record Industry is about making money. Records are about music -- or at least, they should be.

I'm sorry, but you are sooooooooo naive.

As I have learned from previous discussions, debate with you is pointless. You only hear what you want to hear, and ignore everything else.

[QUINNY]

Graham: A CDR costs about $.30 CDN so the surcharge on it is absolutely diddely squat.
Man buys house for $100,000 CDN in 1980 sells house for $400,000 in 2000. What has he done to earn that!!!!!!!!!!
The world goes round 'cos fat cats in all industries and all professions make big bucks for doing absolutely sweet FA. Isn't Cananda part of the capitalist west?
Just because a record is out of print doesn't mean that no one owns the intellectual rights to the material.
Do you expect a facimile car from '77, a facimile fridge. Get my drift?
You're just acting like a spoilt child and your arguments are completely in line with that. Your just pissed 'cos there's something you can't have.

Another thing. Let's say you have a car that you don't use for whatever reason. Does that give anyone the right to take the car and start using it or worse still, start making money by driving it. You'd want your cut wouldn't you or get the guy locked up for theft? You own the car, therefore you have the absolute right to say how it is used and by whom. If you decide to just leave it 'cos you think it may be worth some money to you one day, who could object. Who could force you morally to make it available to someone who wanted it?
There, is that debatable?

[BrunoRepublic]

I was going to write another long rant about how just because something is acceptable doesn't mean it is right, but...

I realized that you're only trying to get me all riled up. You just love seeing people get all emotional; there is no other rational explanation for your behaviour.

[Outsider]

Originally Posted by QUINNY

You can't possibly miss what you've never had. Do me a favour and grow up. To put another spin on it that's cliche ridden You want your cake and to eat it? Do me a favour and grow up.

Who, me? The thing you seem to be missing is that I know about many artists (specifically obscure ones) but have no means of hearing them these days (or not heard enough to decide on an album purchase). I can't afford to buy albums sight-unseen (or shall I say hear-unheard), and I usually listen to at least three songs from any album to decide if it's worth buying or no if I'm not already familiar with the artist in question. It has nothing to so with "having my cake and eating it too". So I hope you understand where I'm coming from. :evil: