Brit-funk!

[SandraDee]

I'm sure I read somewhere that David Bendeth played on Musique records & other Patrick Adams stuff from N.Y.

[buckaroo]

Originally Posted by QUINNY

Let me add my two cents worth.

To my ears most Brit Funk records simply weren't that good because they lacked one very simple ingredient. A decent, tight rhythm section. Just listen to Atmosfear's Dancing In Outta Space for instance. The rhythm section is lumpier than cold porridge. The drummer was just way too busy and incapable of what he was attempting. Youth and inexperience only go some of the way to explaining it.

For what was supposed to be a dance record, that seems to me like a pretty obvious fault to me. Once you release a record, you're up against the best. Maybe they should have waited until they were better musicians?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh my days!!!
I could equally say, listen to Incognito's "Parisienne Girl", and you'll experience some of the tightest drumming - even by today's automated standards. Light Of The World's "Time" (both versions) is another stomper. Espesh the intro.
The timing may have been a mite skew-whiff on Atmosfere's track, but at least we all know the song. Who's gonna remember much about today's modern dance or pop records?

[QUINNY]

Originally Posted by buckaroo

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh my days!!!
I could equally say, listen to Incognito's "Parisienne Girl", and you'll experience some of the tightest drumming - even by today's automated standards. Light Of The World's "Time" (both versions) is another stomper. Espesh the intro.
The timing may have been a mite skew-whiff on Atmosfere's track, but at least we all know the song. Who's gonna remember much about today's modern dance or pop records?

Buckaroo: Well I did write 'most' not 'all'. Of course there were exceptions, but the genre as a whole had many, many records that were just plain 'bad'. BITD ('77-'81/'82) I was just as excited by them as anyone else, for about two weeks, until reality checked in. By '83/'84 we were producing first class stuff, that stood up really well, but by then it wasn't so much Brit Funk as sophisticated Funk.

BTW: I imagine a whole raft of clubbers and DJs are going to remember much of today's material in 20 years time. Music is the soundtrack to one's life and that's a constant throughout the ages.

No-one's mentioned (hate to harp on about it, but I still think this track is underrated) Onward International - A Foot In The Door.
OK it ripped off Paulinho Da Costa's Deja Vu and the sax solo was pretty naff, but all in all this was a mighty fine (slightly more professional sounding Brit Funk) record for the time that had a bunch of students really getting into it, when I last gave it a quick airing a year ago. Maybe I'll try it again tonight at the Jazz club.

[SandraDee]

Originally Posted by QUINNY

OK it ripped off Paulinho Da Costa's Deja Vu and the sax solo was pretty naff

In your roundabout way Quinnykins you've reinforced my opinion about this genre being a pale imitation of the real thing. Ta! :-?

[buckaroo]

8)
When Timbaland was ripping off ragga-hip hop - created by groups like The London Posse, Outlaw, etc. - a few years back, was he an imitator?

[Forrrce]

Originally Posted by buckaroo

8)
When Timbaland was ripping off ragga-hip hop - created by groups like The London Posse, Outlaw, etc. - a few years back, was he an imitator?

I know what you're trying to say here, but reggae/hip hop crossover records go as far back as 1979 in the U.S., so the UK artists above weren't doing anything new. They just put a London spin on it.

[K-Bee]

Originally Posted by buckaroo

8)
When Timbaland was ripping off ragga-hip hop - created by groups like The London Posse, Outlaw, etc. - a few years back, was he an imitator?

I think Timbaland is vastly overrated. I'll admit to the fact that he rather innovative in the beginning of his career. The stuff he did on the first Ginuwine album sounded way different from the norm back in 1996-97. Unfortunately he never moved on though - he still uses those same syncopated beats today, and the occasional addition of crappy self centered rappers on top does nothing for me, i'm afraid.
I say: bring on Jaques Fred Petrus Jr. ( :lol: is there such a thing?)

[buckaroo]

Originally Posted by K-Bee

I think Timbaland is vastly overrated... he still uses those same syncopated beats today, and the occasional addition of crappy self centered rappers on top does nothing for me, i'm afraid.
I say: bring on Jaques Fred Petrus Jr.

Couldn't agree more.
I thought Jaques Fred Petrus Jr died. :-?
http://www.discomusic.com/people-more/1625_0_11_0_C/

Originally Posted by Forrrce

I know what you're trying to say here, but reggae/hip hop crossover records go as far back as 1979 in the U.S., so the UK artists above weren't doing anything new. They just put a London spin on it.

8)
And what about the many Lover's Rock choonz which featured a reggae rap break pre-'79? Like, The Cool Notes "I Will Always Love You."

[K-Bee]

Couldn't agree more.
I thought Jaques Fred Petrus Jr died.
http://www.discomusic.com/people-more/1625_0_11_0_C/

LOL I never thought that the original Petrus was actually a Junior himself.
OK Jaques Fred Petrus III then! :lol:

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