Hard to Find Northern Soul & Disco 45s?

[djsonic]

what are some of the most rare and sought after singles?
sonic.

[marmite7]

Start here...............then work up!
Amazon.co.uk: The Northern Soul Top 500: Books: Kev Roberts,David S. Carne
Amazon.com: The Northern Soul Top 500: Books: Kev Roberts,David S. Carne

[remicks]

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ummm ....
If it wasn't hard to find ....then it wasn't Northern Soul .... since wasn't that the point ....

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[Simon White]

Originally Posted by remicks

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ummm ....
If it wasn't hard to find ....then it wasn't Northern Soul .... since wasn't that the point ....

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ummm ....
Only part of the point, remicks and only some of the time....

[remicks]

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The rare , the hard to find , the unknowns.... was the name of the game

......or else why didn't they include playing the actual hits ?


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[Simon White]

Originally Posted by remicks

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The rare , the hard to find , the unknowns.... was the name of the game

......or else why didn't they include playing the actual hits ?


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Yes, but not the full story remicks..the books tell it better than me but remember, the 'Northern Soul' phenomenon was a UK based thing playing records that were obscure in the UK.. so therefore some records that were well known to the point of charting in the US were played to some extent. Remember also that the US has regional charts too and quite a high number of tracks that the Northern Soul clubs love were regional hits.

[remicks]

Originally Posted by Simon White

Yes, but not the full story remicks..the books tell it better than me but remember, the 'Northern Soul' phenomenon was a UK based thing playing records that were obscure in the UK.. so therefore some records that were well known to the point of charting in the US were played to some extent. Remember also that the US has regional charts too and quite a high number of tracks that the Northern Soul clubs love were regional hits.

Sorry Simon ... I remain unmoved in my position.
I mean, what are you saying any differently from what I am ??
Songs that were only regional hits are by definition more obscure ...more hard to find . Songs that were " known to the point of charting " ... meaning which records ... the piddly stuff barely scratching the lower regions of the charts ?? .... Therefore they too were more obscure , more hard to find.


If it wasn't about that , why weren't Motown's big dance songs played ???


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[Simon White]

Originally Posted by remicks

Sorry Simon ... I remain unmoved in my position.
I mean, what are you saying any differently from what I am ??
Songs that were only regional hits are by definition more obscure ...more hard to find . Songs that were " known to the point of charting " ... meaning which records ... the piddly stuff barely scratching the lower regions of the charts ?? .... Therefore they too were more obscure , more hard to find.


If it wasn't about that , why weren't Motown's big dance songs played ???


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Remicks, experience says it's easier to just agree with you so...yes.
Have a nice day !

[remicks]

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Originally Posted by Simon White

Remicks, experience says it's easier to just agree with you so...yes.

Well it's nice to be right !!!

.... I don't know why you were resistant to the fact that we were in agreement on this in the first place ........????



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[sageone]

Originally Posted by remicks

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ummm ....
If it wasn't hard to find ....then it wasn't Northern Soul .... since wasn't that the point ....

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i dont think the point of northern soul was to find more obscure records at all. Yes it was part of the scene. Its like saying the point of disco was to be gay/black/hispanic or the point of disco was to do the hustle or the point of disco was tom moulton.

The point of northern soul was dancing. Dancing to soul records from the 60's. Records became more obscure because that was the direction it was pushed. I.E because largely it was an "after the event" type of scene. Its direction wasnt dictated by marketing or record companies. So too a records popularity.The direction it went came down to choices the DJs made. That taste so happened to not exactly be, so called "popular R&B/soul" of the time.

but yeah i get the humor in your reply to the first question

[Mr Kaplan]

It's funny to see that some 45's, linked with the "Northern Soul", can sell at a higher price than the 12 inch record. For example

Greg Perry - It Takes Heart
Garfield Fleming - Don't Send Me Away.

[marmite7]

If it wasn't about that , why weren't Motown's big dance songs played ???


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for the same reason big disco hits would be dropped from the playlist, as soon as they became, er, big hits! No-one wants to dance to something that's being played to death on every radio station.

Kelly Marie's - Feels Like I'm In Love or...... Tony Cook & The Party People - on The Floor (Rock It)?

One major worldwide smash, one, er not. At the time overexposure was (and actually still is) the death of many a good tune.

It's about breaking the sounds "bubbling under" innit

Walk into any club now and you won't hear chart fodder................thank gawd.

Have a top weekend Remmy ol pal

[sageone]

marmite u want that lama 12" or not?

i pm'd u but no reply

[Simon White]

Originally Posted by Mr Kaplan

It's funny to see that some 45's, linked with the "Northern Soul", can sell at a higher price than the 12 inch record. For example

Greg Perry - It Takes Heart
Garfield Fleming - Don't Send Me Away.

In general Mr Kaplan, 7" singles are more desirable on the Northern Soul scene than 12" singles. In the two cases you mention there are probably more 12" around than 7's because by nature the more Modern Northern Soul desirables were aimed at a 12" friendly dancefloor if you see what I mean. Or it might have something to do with DJ's not being able to cram a 12" into a 7" box.

[sageone]

the vast majority of northern soul tunes predated 1970's.... so 12" singles largely didnt exist in the northern soul scene. It became a 7" culture because a 7 was what was available as a single. After that it comes down to collectablity do you want the ridgy didge version or some bootleg? If you have 2000 7"s as your collection do you want 4 12" records in it? If you have 2000 Disco 12"s do you want 10 Disco 7" records?

thats just a matter of personal taste.