The worst movie ever produced regarding a disco theme?

[Kimeesha]

As far as immigrants building up their own countries goes, if they could do so without interference from the US maybe they would. Didn't a few immigrants and slaves build some place called America a while back? I'll save you the trouble of talking about European know-how and ingenuity being at the helm of all the migrant slavey muscle. It's bull!

I'd like to know...really...what's happened to this forum. It's a dirty low down place at the mo

The point is that the U.S. is not Sweden or Denmark or Norway...unless Sweden has changed. Europe is far closer to Marxism than the U.S. We have an enormous Eastern European immigrant population which has come here recently whom have found a way to collect SSI---a system which they have never paid into, in order not to work. And all these immigrants that you believe come here to be satisfied with minimum wage are few and far between if they even exist. They simply can't live ANYWHERE on those wages. When they come here they are glad to be away from wherever it is they came from. It does not take long at all before they become bitter and jealous--they are impervious to the hard work our ancestors committed to create the greatest country on earth; they are not here to take a so called "job that nobody else wants". The whole idea of a "job that nobody else wants" was created by the powerful pro-immigration lobby that allows people that don't speak the language, have no skills and are in many cases accustomed to very savage living conditions to enter our country and typically end up in our prison system or begging.

The immigrants that you speak of that built our land hundreds of years ago were an entirely different breed. These were people that did not hold onto their old heritage, but embraced a new heritage, they were glad to be Americans. It was this nationalism that allowed the U.S. to be built the way it is today. But the manufacturing that became the U.S. claim to wealth and power is now all going overseas. So for people who immigrate here now, those jobs are gone. There is nothing for them.

As far as the U.S. interfering with other countries preventing them from advancing proves your ignorance. If you know your history, your probably aware of the fierce neutrality laws that were in place in our great nation after World War I--this forbid the U.S. from interfering with anything foreign, war or otherwise. We were a giant Switzerland committed to isolationism. Any attempt to break this law would guarantee an impeachment of the president. Through a very calculating plan, FDR devised a way to appeal to the populous by inviting the beloved King and Queen of England to our great land. The purpose was to generate sympathy for the great attack Hitler was planning for Britain. The plan did not work--the U.S., was not at all swayed. So FDR then deliberately lied about attacks from German U-boats onto British and American vessels (which were taunting German vessels relentlessly to get them to attack). It was only after Pearl Harbor that we were forced into this war, thus leading allied Europe to victory. This was the mess that started the U.S. as the worlds police officer, that the tax payers are forced to pay for. The older generation that still remember the U.S. as an isolationist nation are fond of those memories. We can build our own cars, TV's and anything else.

[buckaroo]

Originally Posted by Kimeesha

The point is that the U.S. is not Sweden or Denmark or Norway...unless Sweden has changed. Europe is far closer to Marxism than the U.S. We have an enormous Eastern European immigrant population which has come here recently whom have found a way to collect SSI---a system which they have never paid into, in order not to work. And all these immigrants that you believe come here to be satisfied with minimum wage are few and far between if they even exist. They simply can't live ANYWHERE on those wages. When they come here they are glad to be away from wherever it is they came from. It does not take long at all before they become bitter and jealous--they are impervious to the hard work our ancestors committed to create the greatest country on earth; they are not here to take a so called "job that nobody else wants". The whole idea of a "job that nobody else wants" was created by the powerful pro-immigration lobby that allows people that don't speak the language, have no skills and are in many cases accustomed to very savage living conditions to enter our country and typically end up in our prison system or begging.

You are still showing your ignorance about Europe. 'Sweden or Denmark or Norway...' are not good examples of the situation here, as they haven't taken as many asylum seekers as other countries. More than 10 years ago after re-unification, there was a major influx of Turkish immigrants into Germany. There was uproar about this at the time, as Germany had to absorb some 400,000 immigrants in just under five years, more than their fare share in my view. There were growing numbers of isolated racists attacks, and many of the Hostels housing them were firebombed by Neo Nazis - It probably still happens now. An almost similar situation is going on in the UK, because some Eastern Europeans are exploiting the lax security measures (if there are any at all) at France's end of the Euro Tunnel, and they're entering the UK claiming asylum after deliberatly destroying their passports and I.D. The French who were turning a blind eye to the escapes of asylum seekers at their centre in Sangatte, had to eventually close the place down after mounting political pressure from UK M.P.s

About two years ago in Dover, which is in the South Coast of England, people were protesting because an asylum centre housing 1,200 immigrants was due to open there. This all culminated in quite a few attacks - on both sides - and one serious disturbance. I can't understand why they should all be dumped into the inner cities where people like me live. It makes more sense to spread them around the country. Believe me, I am not one of the pro-immigration lobbyists you mention, because some of them are abusing the system and committing crime...Quite a few are not though, they are genuine.
BTW, do you really want to work in a Hotel cleaning rooms for a living? Or do any lowly paid work? I'm honest enough to say that I don't.

The immigrants that you speak of that built our land hundreds of years ago were an entirely different breed. These were people that did not hold onto their old heritage, but embraced a new heritage, they were glad to be Americans. It was this nationalism that allowed the U.S. to be built the way it is today. But the manufacturing that became the U.S. claim to wealth and power is now all going overseas. So for people who immigrate here now, those jobs are gone. There is nothing for them.

At the time, they were not held in such high affectionate esteem as you think they were. I won't repeat some of the names that they were called back then. Also you shouldn't have to give up your heritage because you emigrate. Do Americans abroad do this?

The loss of industry and manufacturing to cheaper workers abroad is down to greedy companies like Nike, would much rather pay someone $10 per week to make sports shoes in the far east, than pay an American a decent wage to do it. Then the have the nerve to charge $200 for a shoe, and wonder why it doesn't sell. I can recall seeing the founder of Nike on TV saying that US workers don't want to make his products, that's why they're manfuctured elsewhere (Guess!). :roll: 'Yeah yeah yeah.' I thought.

As far as the U.S. interfering with other countries preventing them from advancing proves your ignorance. If you know your history, your probably aware of the fierce neutrality laws that were in place in our great nation after World War I--this forbid the U.S. from interfering with anything foreign, war or otherwise. We were a giant Switzerland committed to isolationism. Any attempt to break this law would guarantee an impeachment of the president. Through a very calculating plan, FDR devised a way to appeal to the populous by inviting the beloved King and Queen of England to our great land. The purpose was to generate sympathy for the great attack Hitler was planning for Britain. The plan did not work--the U.S., was not at all swayed. So FDR then deliberately lied about attacks from German U-boats onto British and American vessels (which were taunting German vessels relentlessly to get them to attack). It was only after Pearl Harbor that we were forced into this war, thus leading allied Europe to victory. This was the mess that started the U.S. as the worlds police officer, that the tax payers are forced to pay for.

Damn well serves ya right. If your President is prepared to lie to his electorate. :lol: :lol: :lol: It wasn't the last time it happened either.
You are being economical with the truth. In late May of 1940, FDR agreed to transfer twenty torpedo boats to the British without informing Congress. When Navy Secretary Charles Edison objected, Roosevelt told him: "Forget it and do what I told you to do."
My knowledge of history, reminds me that Roosvelt didn't do this out of the kindness of his heart. It was after repeated calls for assistance from among others Winston Churchill. And there was a more selfish reason. The US benifitted from the war more than any other country did after it ended, as they were still in the grip of a depression when it began. The deal FDR offered to Churchill was for American destroyers to be given to Britain in exchange for Britain's leasing property in the West Indies and Canada — for ninety-nine years — for American military bases. Churchill replied that such an agreement would be a threat to British sovereignty. But Roosevelt insisted that this was the only way that he could evade Congress and the neutrality acts. With destroyers-for-bases, he could argue, after the fact, that he was acting in the interests of national security by providing a more secure defense of the U.S. When reporters asked him if congressional approval was required, he replied: "It is all over; it is all done." When the reporters asked him for details about the agreement, Roosevelt answered that it involved "all kinds of things that nobody here would understand, so I won't mention them. It is a fait accompli ; it is done this way." An uproar resulted among the noninterventionists. Senator Arthur Vandenberg called Roosevelt's deal "the most arbitrary and dictatorial action ever taken by any President in the history of the United States." Congressman George Tinkham said, "There is no difference between his [FDR's] action from either Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin." The door was opened for every president after FDR to use the same executive power to rationalise and justify the sending of American troops to Korea, the Middle East, Vietnam, Somalia, and Haiti. Mr Roosevelt did his utmost to circumvent the neutrality laws.

Try telling the people who live in parts of the West Indies like the Bahamas, which is basically owned by white Americans, if they can advance unhindered.

I'll retract my comment about this forum becoming a low down place. Because actually, you cannot just dance your way through life as much as some here would love to, and pretend that there are no real problems or issues that you should deal with head on. I'm looking forward to a reply.

[paul]

Well, thanks Buckaroo for that bit of history i didn't know.
Oh, I try and fit the realities of life around my disco dancing :D

[buckaroo]

Originally Posted by DISCODISK

ill just dodge the bullets and hand grenades to mention another film 'YOUNG SOUL REBELS' made in the u.k in 1991
set in 1977 london im not saying this is the worst for me its probibly one of the best...

:-?
I very was disappointed after I saw this film at the cinema when it came out. Mainly because of the stupid murder mystery which was unconvincing in my view. As I know someone who was a clubber during the period, and who also got involved in a pirate station, I found it to be distinctly inaccurate in certain areas. I was expecting to see scenes where the protagonists are chased around town by the DTI, which would've been exciting if handled correctly. Or see when they were out in the clubs gettin' down to the music. But apart from a few instances where one of the characters buys a few records, the actual SOUL element which was around at the time was distinctly lacking.

***GAY WARNING*** it has a gay/murder pirate radio theme great music parliment sylvester/blackbyrds/funkadelic/war players association/roy ayers/el coco/ dr buzzard[there are a couple of punk songs too] club scenes. its well made made by some people who thought disco in that era hadnt been documented so the detail is quite good with the boys reading the correct magazines,record purchases in the correct bags [contempo] the detail is spot on theres punks skinheads soul boys,u.k members

A lot of black people back then wouldn't have gone anywhere near a Punk or Skinhead. Maybe this happened in the gay scene as shown in the film, but ordinarily I doubt it was the case. Although to begin with the '60s Skinheads were actually lovers of Ska music and Reggae, once the fascist organisations like the National Front adopted their look of wearing 'bovver' boots, braces and tight jeans, it took on more aggressive connotations. A lot of the ignorant fascists who carried out racist attacks back then, didn't actually realise that they were dressing themselves up to look gay, in some instances :lol: . Oh, the irony of it all. :lol: :lol:
Certain London clubs did have a mixed race clientelle, but only on certain nights of the week because of the policy of certain doormen and club owners not wanting '...too many blacks...' in their place. This led to the many 'Blues' parties which were happening around that time, as black people were fed up of being excluded from West End venues. When DJ and club owner extraordinaire Chris Hill began doing his famous Caister weekenders, blacks began to travel to outer London areas in order to club. And they met more than a few white men and women too :P Golly gosh!!! Shock horror.

The gay sex scenes inthe movie which are very graphic, would've been more balanced if the heterosexual sex scenes were as explicit. But it was all over in a flash. This says a lot about the self-indulgence of the director Isaac Julien. Are you saying gays are longer and better lovers Mr Julien? :lol: :lol: :lol:

See? Buckaroo isn't always serious y'know. :D

[ol'skinflint]

Originally Posted by Mixmachine

Yeap, "last days of disco " was really weak, but I regret not picking up the DVD cheap when I had the chance, it is OOP now, very hard to get and selling for inflated prices.

Mixmachine: i wonder if being out of print is the reason why "The Last Days of Disco" never, ever EVER is shown on HBO in my area....it's been on Pay Per View several times but since I didn't know if it was worth the cost or not I never ordered it. I think I WILL order it the next time it's on....I never see it in used video stores, either...big mystery.

[zeca azevedo]

THANK GOD IS FRIDAY is lighweight entertainment, good for a few laughs and (mostly) for the music;

CAN'T STOP THE MUSIC is one of the silliest movies ever made. THE VILLAGE PEOPLE "acting"?

54 is garbage. What a waist of time and money.

24 HOUR PARTY PEOPLE is not a "disco movie" but has lots of dance scenes and tells the story of THE HACIENDA, the legendary Manchester club. This movie is great: funny, intelligent, cool. A must see.

[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by ol'skinflint

I didn't know if it was worth the cost or not I never ordered it. I think I WILL order it the next time it's on

Be very careful! If you expect a Disco movie you WILL be disappointed! It's not that bad but it sure ain't a Dance flick! It reminds me more of the Yuppie than the Disco era!

[garrybcoston]

Originally Posted by zeca azevedo

THANK GOD IS FRIDAY is lighweight entertainment, good for a few laughs and (mostly) for the music;

CAN'T STOP THE MUSIC is one of the silliest movies ever made. THE VILLAGE PEOPLE "acting"?

54 is garbage. What a waist of time and money.

24 HOUR PARTY PEOPLE is not a "disco movie" but has lots of dance scenes and tells the story of THE HACIENDA, the legendary Manchester club. This movie is great: funny, intelligent, cool. A must see.

I agree Zeca; after Saturday Night Fever, a few disco movies came out but couldn't really quite "hit the hype" like "Fever" did. It's just like disco, when it first came out, it was quality music, then everyone jumped on the bandwagon, and most disco then became senseless, silly and mindless.

Garry

[SandraDee]

Originally Posted by DISCODISK

ill just dodge the bullets and hand grenades to mention another film 'YOUNG SOUL REBELS' made in the u.k in 1991
set in 1977 london im not saying this is the worst for me its probibly one of the best, i sat down to watch it on video the other day and after 20 mins broke away to check if its now out on d.v.d and it is :P so i ordered one and put the video away ***GAY WARNING*** :lol: it has a gay/murder pirate radio theme great music parliment sylvester/blackbyrds/funkadelic/war players association/roy ayers/el coco/ dr buzzard[there are a couple of punk songs too] club scenes. its well made made by some people who thought disco in that era hadnt been documented so the detail is quite good with the boys reading the correct magazines,record purchases in the correct bags [contempo] the detail is spot on theres punks skinheads soul boys,u.k members [or region 2 people] check e.bay theres a seller there selling for £7.99 u.k post free cant be bad, ive bought from him before no probs 8)

This is probably my favourite disco film too; the only minus point for me was the fact that records from '78 & '79 were played in clubs when the fulm is set in the summer of '77.

[Disco Funk]

I watched Last Days of Disco and 54 in the theatre, and disliked both movies. The former just didn't have any likeable character, and it just seemed so fake; 54 also seemed way too artificial, not a good reflection of the disco days. Would Summer of Sam be put in the same category? I hate it when people use anachronistic music, which is what happened in movies like Summer of Sam and Carlito's Way (which had a good selection of music, in spite of the inclusion of Got To Be Real, which was from 3 years after the '75 setting of the film).

I don't think other people consider it a disco movie, but I've considered Car Wash to be one, because of the soundtrack. The title track is probably the only one on the album that is close to real disco, while the other cuts are funk. But it's a great movie with great music. SNF and TGIF are my other two faves, with the former being my overall favorite.

Disco Funk

[Cory Ander]

I feel a bit left out of this discussion since I've never seen "Last Days" OR "Can't Stop".....but I have issues with most of the movies that have dancing as a central theme. Most of the dancing in "Footloose" didn't impress me....I enjoy much of the dancing in "FlashDance" though we now know most of it was done by an uncredited stand in. I've never seen movies that have strong disco songs on their soundtracks like "Soup for One" or "Lipstick". And though the music and several dance scenes in "Fever" are very impressive to me, I don't find its story line very strong and the racial slur used in it seemed quite offensive to me. No matter how many people slag "Thank God", it remains my favorite movie about disco to date since it most closely reflects the best times I had in discos. And the way the songs comment directly on the scenes they accompany (regardless of what one thinks of the songs' quality) makes it clear that the songs were created specifically for the film and not just thrown in (the Bee Gees songs on "Fever" were NOT created specifically for the film....the brothers have revealed that several times).

[Videoskooter]

Cory, Ssshhht

[SandraDee]

Odd that this thread is back 'cos I gave 'Last Days Of Disco' another chance last night (I watched it once before & hated it!) & I hated it even more. I can't believe that a hip Manhattan disco (which 'the club' is supposed to be, although it doesn't look very hip to me!) in the early 80s would be playing 70s disco such as 'Shame' & 'Le Freak'. I remember the early-mid 80s as being fiercely contemporary & always up to the minute with trends; the concept of 'retro' nights didn't seem to come about 'til the end of the 80s onwards. & I've never seen a disco setting in a film have less atmosphere; even the disco in 'The Stud' had more atmosphere!

[buckaroo]

TLDOD is another let down. It looks more like it's set during the early '90s. Kate Beckinsale is sexy...so WTF.

IMHO Saturday Night Fever is the best. The songs work, J Travolta had charisma back then, and it seemed real. These likeable New York Italians would exchange their often racist and sexist banter with each other, but they were young ignorant guys, out for P***y in the nightclubs. Is this unusual even today?

[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by buckaroo

These likeable New York Italians would exchange their often racist and sexist banter with each other, but they were young ignorant guys, out for P***y in the nightclubs. Is this unusual even today?

Si, è vero, e tutto quello e comporta!! (all that goes with it)