Billboard Disco Compilation/Consensus Charts-Part 1:1974-75

[markydefad]

OK, I've decided to experiment with those pesky old Billboard Disco charts and combine the data contained in each of the separate charts and compile them into one chart for each week. I was disappointed at all the titles that were ommitted from Joel Whitburn's Disco Charts Book......so I'm gonna play around with this idea.

My fervor to get acquainted with those more obscure titles in the 1975-1976 era led me to this idea. I might as well just write them all out so I can remember what to look for, right?

I'll assign points based on chart placement and combine the points of all the various songs on each chart to come up with a "consensus compilation" chart for each week. :o :o :o

Well, we'll see how long I can keep it up.

I'll type the first one this weekend.

Any idea where I can access those old Tom Moulton columns I started typing? I'll add to those also. I have no idea where to find them. Bernie or Nicky....can I get a link??? :D

[efunk_adelic]

After reading your idea.... it makes me even more upset with myself for throwing away my magazine's in 2002 :(


However, I didn't subscribe until 1978 .... that is the years that I kept however... :D

Let me know if I can be of help Marky.

[markydefad]

Thanks e-funk,

but I think I've got what I need. I'm gonna do compilations of the individual charts up til the debut of the first national disco chart in the summer of 1976.

I am missing some of the Tom Moulton columns that were continued on different pages other than the chart page. Anyone have the complete Moulton? I am volunteering for typing duty.....to convey the info to the folks who care. :D

[NickNack]

Originally Posted by markydefad

Any idea where I can access those old Tom Moulton columns I started typing? I'll add to those also. I have no idea where to find them. Bernie or Nicky....can I get a link??? :D

I think this is what you're looking for. If not, you know how to get me. :)

Tom Moulton Billboard Colums

Here's your "Billboard Charts" lists:

Billoard Charts

[markydefad]

Thanks Nicky. That's what I was looking for. :D Where do you do subject searches nowadays? Approximately what page # are those Billboard charts on? Well, I guess I have the link now.........so ....... :o

[markydefad]

(Updated with more and/or corrected info 2/12/05)

October 26, 1974

Billboard Pop Chart Top 5:
1) THEN CAME YOU - Dionne Warwick & The Spinners
2) YOU HAVEN'T DONE NOTHIN' - Stevie Wonder
3) YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET - Bachman-Turner Overdrive
4) JAZZMAN - Carole King
5) THE BITCH IS BACK - Elton John

Billboard Soul/R&B Chart #1:
1) HIGHER PLANE - Kool & The Gang
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OK, here's the first chart.

DISCO ACTION

3 charts with 10 items in each chart.

A = Hot At the Discos (NYC)
(#1: NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE)
B= Best Sellers (Downstairs Records -NYC)
(#1: NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE)
C = Best Sellers (Colony Records- NYC)
(#1: NEVER CAN SAY GOODBE)

Three charts with 10 items apiece; Ten points for a #1; 1 point for a #10. Max points= 30.

(In case of ties: precedence for appearance on more than one chart; precedence for highest ranking on any chart; or alphabetical order by song title.)

THE DISCO COMPILATION CONSENSUS TOP 21
Chart #1: 10/26/74

1) NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE - Gloria Gaynor
(MGM 45) (30 points/chart A, B & C)
2) ASK ME - Ecstasy, Passion & Pain
(Roulette 45) (18 pts; chart ABC)
3) JUST AS LONG AS I CAN - Free Spirit
(Chess 45) (16 pts/B & C)
4) GET DANCIN' (PART 1 & 2) - Disco Tex & His Sex-O-Lettes
(Chelsea 45) (14 pts; ABC)
5) WHERE ARE ALL MY FRIENDS - Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
(Phil Intl. 45) (9pts.; B only)
6) "ENERGY OF LOVE" LP - The Intruders (their final LP)
(TSOP) (8 pts./B only)
7) SUGAR PIE GUY - The Joneses
(Mercury 45) (8 pts./C only)
8. EVERLASTING LOVE - Carl Carlton
(Backbeat/ABC 45) (7 pts/AB)
9) YOU'RE THE FIRST, THE LAST, MY EVERYTHING - Barry White
(20th Century LP cut) (7 pts./A only)
10) I CAN'T FIGHT YOUR LOVE - The Modulations
(Buddah 45) (6 pts./A only)

11) KEEP ON MOVING - Creative Source
(Sussex 45) (6pts/C)
12) ROCKIN' SOUL - The Hues Corporation
(RCA 45) (6 pts./BC)
13) SAVE IT (DON'T GIVE IT AWAY) - Lonette McKee
(Sussex 45) (5 pts./B)
14) TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT - Jimmy Ruffin
(Chess 45 IMPORT) (5 pts./A)
15) GOT TO GET YOU BACK - Sons Of Robin Stone
(Atco 45) (4 pts./C)
16) YOU LITTLE TRUSTMAKER - The Tymes
(RCA 45-BOTH versions; original version not available commercially) (4 pts; A)
17) DO IT TIL YOU'RE SATISFIED - B.T. Express
(Scepter 45) (3 pts./A)
18. DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME - T.N.J.S.
(Chess 45) (3 pts./B)
19) YOU BELIEVED IN ME - Executive Suite
(Babylon 45) (3 pts./C)
20) GUT LEVEL - The Blackbyrds
(Fantasy LP cut) (2 pts/A)

21) LOVE DOESN'T GROW ON TREES - Darren Green
(RCA 45) (2 pts./C)

#3, 6, 11, 13, 15, 18, 19, & 21 NOT LISTED in Joel Whitburn's HOT DANCE/DISCO - 1974-2003 book)

The Final Tally

3 records on all 3 charts (#1, 2, 4)
3 records on 2 charts
15 records on only 1 chart

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Club Dialogue by Tom Moulton
10/26/74

(New York City)

GLORIA GAYNOR'S "NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE" is still the top record in the discos and has been for five weeks.

"YOU LITTLE TRUSTMAKER" by THE TYMES.
This is the original version; stronger lead singer, female back-up group, hotter mix. DJ's have been trying to obtain this version but it is not available commercially, although some disco DJ's have obtained copies of this version which has jumped into their top 10 within the past for weeks.

FREE SPIRIT'S "JUST AS LONG AS I CAN"
(Disco mix; longer and faster is available from Chess/Janus only as a special promotional copy because the disco version was released after the shorter commercial copies were released. Chess/Janus feels the commercial copies should be sold before the Disco version is released commercially.

Roulette Records has made a test pressing of the Disco-mix of "YOUR LOVE" by THE MOMENT OF TRUTH (slower,original tempo and much longer than the commercial one released several months ago, which was not played in the discos). The DJ's who have it love it and play it; hopefully it will become commercially available soon.

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[sfbeary]

hey marky,

thanks for these charts!

i think the version of "you little trustmaker" that moulton mentions was never actually pressed on vinyl. he played it for me last year on his home computer - it's sung by the tymes singer who ordinarily sings lead on their other records - he has a much deeper voice. he talked about trying to get that version released, but he may have given up on that project.

[markydefad]

Hey sfbeary,

Hmmmmm.....So did this alternate/original version of "You Little Trustmaker" only exist only on tape? If all these djs had it, it had to be in some format, right? :o

[efunk_adelic]

Originally Posted by sfbeary

hey marky,

thanks for these charts!

i think the version of "you little trustmaker" that moulton mentions was never actually pressed on vinyl. he played it for me last year on his home computer - it's sung by the tymes singer who ordinarily sings lead on their other records - he has a much deeper voice. he talked about trying to get that version released, but he may have given up on that project.

you also caught my curiosity... all I have is the original version.

[sfbeary]

"all these djs" is an overstatement - he mentions that "some disco DJ's have obtained copies of this version" - that could've been a couple of key djs that moulton himself gave reel-to-reel tapes to. it wasn't uncommon for a key dj to play unreleased/advance/alternate/privately edited versions on reel-to-reel. robbie leslie used it do it a lot. it might have also been an acetate, but i've never heard any collector mentioning having this. moulton himself has this version, and i've heard it, but as i said, it was on his home computer.