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Old June 30th, 2004, 07:51 PM
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Reading the last chart, I saw B.B.King and then I remembered Ben Eduard King (aka B. E. King) which released a song "We got love". Have you ever heard about it?? Did it appear on the Disco charts?

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November 23, 1974

"Hey Girl, Come and Get It" by The Stylistics on their "Heavy Fallin' Out" LP on Avco has the same sound as "Rock Your Baby" so that is is a Stylistics version of the George McCrae hit. The discogoer still wants this sound and the popularity of this record confirms it.

I wonder why they said that these songs sound the same???? they don't
Hmmm...I see your point. I'm wondering if he didn't mean to reference "Rock The Boat" by the Hues Corporation which has more of the sound of The Stylistics record? Just a guess.

It seems he makes a reference to this "Rock The Boat" sound somewere else in these columns...saying audiences want more of this sound.
In his January 11, 1975 column, Tom says The Richmond Extension's new single "Let's Get Into Something" is in the same vein as "Hey Girl, Come And Get It". He then talks about both records having, and I quote, "the "Rock The Boat/Rock Your Baby" sound".

I guess that answers all questions. :lol:
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"Hey Girl, Come and Get It" by The Stylistics on their "Heavy Fallin' Out" LP on Avco has the same sound as "Rock Your Baby" so that is is a Stylistics version of the George McCrae hit. The discogoer still wants this sound and the popularity of this record confirms it.

I wonder why they said that these songs sound the same???? they don't
Hmmm...I see your point. I'm wondering if he didn't mean to reference "Rock The Boat" by the Hues Corporation which has more of the sound of The Stylistics record? Just a guess.

It seems he makes a reference to this "Rock The Boat" sound somewere else in these columns...saying audiences want more of this sound.
In his January 11, 1975 column, Tom says The Richmond Extension's new single "Let's Get Into Something" is in the same vein as "Hey Girl, Come And Get It". He then talks about both records having, and I quote, "the "Rock The Boat/Rock Your Baby" sound".

I guess that answers all questions. :lol:


I feel much better now... :D
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Another song with the "Rock The Boat/Hey Girl, Come and Get it" sound (it's that distinctive drum "bum ba bum-bum" sound) is "To Each His Own" by Faith, Hope & Charity. This gets released later--in 1975.
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Another song with the "Rock The Boat/Hey Girl, Come and Get it" sound (it's that distinctive drum "bum ba bum-bum" sound) is "To Each His Own" by Faith, Hope & Charity. This gets released later--in 1975.

I'm really glad we brought this up.... because I like that sound a lot! Other than Van McCoy hits.... I wonder if there are any more that didn't fair as well? Anybody? or maybe I should just start another thread...
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(Updated with new and/or corrected info 2/16/05)

December 7, 1974

Billboard Pop Chart Top 5:
1) KUNG FU FIGHTING - Carl Douglas
2) I CAN HELP - Billy Swan
3) WHEN WILL I SEE YOU AGAIN - Three Degrees
4) DO IT ('TIL YOU'RE SATISFIED) -B.T. Express
5) CAT'S IN THE CRADLE - Harry Chapin

*(items in BOLD charted on the DISCO chart.)

Billboard Soul/R&B Chart #1:
1) I FEEL A SONG (IN MY HEART) - Gladys Knight & The Pips (2nd week) __________________________________________________ ___
DISCO ACTION:

A = Top 15 Audience Response Records (NYC Discos)
(#1: EXPRESS)
B= Best Sellers (Downstairs Records -NYC)
(#1: DOCTOR'S ORDERS)
C = Best Sellers (Colony Records- NYC)
(#1: DOCTOR'S ORDERS)
D = Best Sellers: Melody Song Shops (Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island)
(#1 = EXPRESS)

Four charts with 15 items apiece; 15 points for a #1; 1 point for a #15. Max points= 60.

(In case of ties: precedence for appearance on more than one chart; precedence for highest ranking on any chart (especially chart A); or alphabetical order by song title.)

Add them up and voila......


THE DISCO COMPILATION CONSENSUS TOP 34
Chart #7: 12/7/74

1) EXPRESS - B.T. Express
(Scepter LP only) (58 points total/charts ABCD) (last week:#3)
2) DOCTOR'S ORDERS - Carol Douglas
(Midland Intl. 45) (56/ABCD) (#1)
3) I'LL BE HOLDING ON - Al Downing
(Chess 45- Disco Mix) (48/ABCD) (#5)
4) TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT - Jimmy Ruffin
(Chess 45) (34/ABCD) (#2)
5) GET DANCIN' (PART 1 & 2) - Disco Tex & His Sex-O-Lettes
(Chelsea 45) (28/ACD) (#6)
6) NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE - Gloria Gaynor
(MGM 45) (27/ACD) (#7)
7) YOU'RE THE FIRST, THE LAST, MY EVERYTHING/ b/w MORE THAN ANYTHING, YOU'RE MY EVERYTHING (Instrumental) - Barry White
(20th Century 45) (21/ABD) (#4)
8. HEY GIRL, COME AND GET IT - The Stylistics
(Avco LP only) (21/AB) (#13)
9) * LOVE DON'T YOU GO THROUGH NO CHANGES ON ME - Sister Sledge
(Atco 45) (20/BC) (NEW)
10) * LADY MARMALADE - Labelle
(Epic 45) (18/ACD) (NEW)

11) EACH MORNING I WAKE UP - Major Harris Boogie Blues Band
(Atlantic 45) (15/AB) (#10)
12) SOON EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE ALRIGHT - Third Time Around
(Denine 45) (13/BC) (#8.)
13) (R) I FEEL LOVE COMIN' ON - Jay & The Techniques
(Silver Blue 45) (10/C) (RETURN)
14) E-MAN BOOGIE - JImmy Castor Bunch
(Atlantic LP cut--not avialable commercially yet) (9/A) (#23)
15) * GUILTY - First Choice
(Philly Groove 45) (9/D) (NEW)
16) ONE DAY OF PEACE - Love Committe
(TSOP 45) (9/B) (#29)
17) *ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW - Lalo Schifrin
(20th Century 45) (8/C) (NEW)
18. *HAPPY PEOPLE - The Temptations
(Gordy 45) (7/CD) (NEW)
19) WHERE ARE ALL MY FRIENDS - Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
(Phil. Intl. 45) (7/BC) (#9)
20) ASK ME - Ecstasy, Passion & Pain
(Roulette 45) (7/A) (#16)

21) ROCKIN' SOUL - Hues Corporation
(RCA 45) (7/B) (#11)
22) WANNA BE WHERE YOU ARE - Zulema
(RCA 45) (7/C) (#19)
23) LOOK ON THE GOOD SIDE - The Invitations
(Silver Blue 45) (6/B) (#12)
24) GIRLS - The Moments & The Whatnauts
(Stang 45) (5/B) (#20)
25) SUGAR PIE GUY - The Joneses
(Mercury 45) (5/A) (#21)
26) WHEN WILL I SEE YOU AGAIN - The Three Degrees
(Phil. Intl. 45) (5/D) (#15)
27) * BABY, BABY, LOVE IS WAITING - Gary Bonner
(Atlantic 45) (4/B) (NEW)
28. * STOMP AND BUCK DANCE - The Crusaders
(Blue Thumb LP only) (4/D) (NEW)
29) PHILADELPHIA - B.B. King
(ABC 45) (3/A) (#26)
30) (R) TIME - Mighty Clouds Of Joy
(ABC 45) (3/D) (RETURN)

31) TRUSTING HEART - The Trammps
(Golden Fleece 45) (2/D) (#14)
32)* YOU'VE GOT TO TRY HARDER - Ronnie Walker
(Event 45) (2/C) (NEW)
33) * IT'S A MIRACLE - Barry Manilow
(chart says Bell (Arista) LP only) (1/A) (NEW)
34) *WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU - Labelle
(Epic LP only) (1/D) (Next week, it's bundled with "Lady Marmalade" on most of the charts) (NEW)
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STATS:

#12, 13, 15, 17, 22, 23, 26, 27, 28, 30, 32 NOT in Joel Whitburn's Hot Dance/Disco 1974-2003 book.

* = Debut (10): #9, 10, 15, 17, 18, 27, 28, 32, 33, 34

(R) = Return/Re-entry (2): #13. 30

DROPPED OFF:

PICK UP THE PIECES - Average White Band (was #17) * will be back
BERTHA BUTT BOOGIE - Jimmy Castor Bunch (#18.) *
BUMP YOUR BOOTY - Bobby Marchan (#22) *
KUNG FU FIGHTING - Carl Douglas (#24) *
LIVING, LOVING, LAUGHING - Jesus (Alvarez) (#25)
GOT TO TESTIFY (LOVE) - Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose (#27)
YOU BELIEVED IN ME - Executive Suite (#28.)
PARTY IS A GROOVY THING - People's Choice (#30) *


THE FINAL TALLY:

34 total items this week; 30 last week
+10 debuts + 2 returns /-8 dropoffs
4 records on all 4 charts
4 records on 3 charts
6 records on 2 charts
20 records on only 1 chart
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DISCO ACTION by Tom Moulton
Column #7: 12/07/74

(New York) Radio station WPIX-FM here has introduced a four-hour disco show on Saturday nights from 8-12 p.m. The program features current discotheque hits as well as a number of disco oldies mixed in.

Showing up on the station's disco playlist are such selections as "You're The First, The Last, My Everything", "Love Is The Answer", Sugar Pie Guy" and "Get Dancin' ". Records are announced either before or after they're played and spots are used after two or three plays.

While the techniques of cueing found at the clubs aren't used, WPIX is programming most of what is hot on the club level and initial (reaction) to the station's move into the disco field has been favorable.

Avco Records has mailed out a special promo single of "Hey Girl, Come & Get It" by the Stylistics to disco d.j.'s. and they in turn are telling their audiences that it will probably be available soon as a commercial single. It's rated by the same dj's as the strongest cut on the group's current album.

The new Kay Gees album on Gang Records will be coming out in the next two weeks, and there are several good disco cuts on the LP, including "Ain't No Time (Part 1&2)" and "Get Down." "Aint' No Time" featuring synthesizer and vocal harmonies throughout, is a different sound for the group, giving them more of a pop music flavor.

Already, there are several test copies of "Get Down" at a few of the clubs here and reaction to it has been strong. Al Garcia of The Twinkle Zone says it's "probably the group's most commercial sounding effort."

"Lady Marmalade" by Labelle has made the top 15 this week, after sharing split play for some time now with the cut "What Can I Do For You" from their same titled Epic LP. The stronger response is now behind "Lady Marmalade".

About nine months ago, a record was released on Silver Blue Records titled "We Can't Get Enough" by Bingo and, for some strange reason, no one ever heard the disk.

Now, Downstairs Records has copies to sell and Colony is trying to acquire the single, which is a lot like a Trammps record. Word from Siver Blue is that if initial reaction is strong enough they may reissue the disk with the track on a B-side.

Steve Santoro, formerly of Nepentha IL, is the disk jockey at the George Whitliegh's Dance Palace in Journal Square in Jersey City, N.J. Styled after a New York club, the Dance Palace opened Friday (29) and has a 800-person capacity.

Buttermilk Bottom, a private club here which was growing in popularity, was closed last week because of problems with city authorities over it's exits. Word is that the club will move to another location and Alfie Davidson will still be spinning for them. Ironically, the club was closed by the officials during the height of crowded Saturday night.

Carl Carlton's ABC LP "Everlasting Love" will be available within two weeks. "La, La, La, I Love You Girl" and the Ruby & The Romantics' oldie "Our Day Will Come" are the two strong disco cuts. ......Ritchie Kaczor, dj at the Hollywood here, is getting strong audience response from Sister Sledge's "Love Don't You Go Through No Changes On Me" (Atco)

Look for Atlantic Records to have a strong disco month this January. Coming out will be the new Sister Sledge LP, which has several good disco cuts; the Major Harris LP, with the long version of "Each Moning I Wake Up", and the Jimmy Castor LP with "E Man Boogie", "Hallucinations", and "Bertha Butt Boogie".
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love that!

not sure if it's your mistake or tom's, but barry manilow's LP was on arista, not atlantic.
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Barry,

Well "Atlantic" was my mistake...it was the label for the preceding record. Tom has "Bell" as the label. Was this soon to be absorbed into Arista?...seems so.

Thanks for the input.

Anything new of note here?
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oh, right. barry manilow was first on bell, and then bell turned into arista, and his early records were then reissued on arista. i'm gonna embarrass myself and publically admit that i quite like "it's a miracle" - sort of like his later cut "new york city rhythm" in its almost-disco-ness.

guilty by first choice is fierce, but you probably already know that.

stomp and buck dance by the crusaders is also a killer - it's a funky/jazzy instrumental with a drum intro beloved by the hip-hop peeps - not strictly disco, but don't let that scare ya, it's a goodie.

and of course the sister sledge track is early disco magnificence personified (or should that be vinylified?)
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What about the Ronnie Walker & Gary Bonner tracks? I don't know those.
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