Billboard Disco Compilation/Consensus Charts-Part 1:1974-75

[markydefad]

[quote="DISCODISK"][quote="markydefad"]I searched for the Ronnie Walker record over at AMG and found it in a compilation..."Masterpieces of Modern Soul"...went to Amoba and bought it!!!

15. You've Got to Try Harder (Times Are Bad) performed by Ronnie Walker - 3:01

I haven't had time to listen yet. :oops:

hey MARKY were still waiting i saw this in the week and i was gonna do it, then i thought how do you describe that intro :-? ill let you try :lol:

"Girl don't make me wait" dept.; SORRY, I didn't have the cd with me before!!!! :lol:

Well, the opening is electronic...I sorta heard a cross between a space ship landing (Sheb Wooley's "Purple People Eater" novelty) or the opening percolating electronic blips of Diana Ross & The Supremes' "Reflections"!!!!

Then it's a more straight-forward Spinners-sounding Philly soul number. The most memorable hook is the line "You'll surely succeed if you simply believe". Like it; don't recall if from back in tha olden days. :roll:

[DISCODISK]

[quote="markydefad"]

Well, the opening is electronic...I sorta heard a cross between a space ship landing (Sheb Wooley's "Purple People Eater" novelty) or the opening percolating electronic blips of Diana Ross & The Supremes' "Reflections"!!!!

HEY MARKY THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY :lol:
great record from a great singer he never cut a bad side,though he was more of a 60s artist.there was another event release for ronnie a cover of 'magics in the air'these were both monsters where i clubbed :P 'try' can be found but 'magics' rarely seen these days. for anyone who has the philly ear candy c.d they are both on there and magics in the air is a whole 8 minutes

[fabio]

Congratulation for coming up once again with some very useful information. I like the idea to compare the #1 disco and the #1 r&b since i often find it difficult to make a clear distinction between the two "genres".
I hope you'll be disciplined enough to carry on at least until the end of the 70's.
From this first list of #1 i can see how familiar i am with the disco tracks and how the r&b look completely alien to me. I better put on my roller skates and do some homework....

October 26, 1974 (first Disco chart)

Disco #1:NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE - Gloria Gaynor (compilation consensus)

R&B #1:HIGHER PLANE - Kool & The Gang

Pop #1:THEN CAME YOU - Dionne Warwick(e) & The Spinners
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November 2, 1974

Disco #1:NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE- Gloria Gaynor (compilation consensus)

R&B #1:LET'S STRAIGHTEN IT OUT- Latimore

Pop #1:YOU HAVEN'T DONE NOTHIN'- Stevie Wonder w/ The Jackson Five
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November 9, 1974

Disco #1:YOU'RE THE FIRST, THE LAST, MY EVERYTHING - Barry White (compilation consensus)

R&B #1:LET'S STRAIGHTEN IT OUT- Latimore

Pop #1:YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET - Bachman-Turner Overdrive
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November 16, 1974

Disco #1:DOCTOR'S ORDERS- Carol Douglas (compilation consensus)

R&B #1:WOMAN TO WOMAN - Shirley Brown

Pop #1:WHATEVER GETS YOU THROUGH THE NIGHT - John Lennon
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November 23, 1974

Disco #1:DOCTOR'S ORDERS- Carol Douglas (compilation consensus)

R&B #1:WOMAN TO WOMAN- Shirley Brown

Pop #1:I CAN HELP- Billy Swan
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November 30, 1974

Disco #1:DOCTOR'S ORDERS- Carol Douglas (compilation consensus)

R&B #1:I FEEL A SONG (IN MY HEART) - Gladys Knight & The Pips

Pop #1:I CAN HELP- Billy Swan
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December 7, 1974

Disco #1 - B.T. Express (compilation consensus)

R&B #1:I FEEL A SONG (IN MY HEART) - Gladys Knight & The Pips

Pop #1:KUNG FU FIGHTING - Carl Douglas

[markydefad]

(Updated with new and/or corrected info 2/19/05)


December 28, 1974 (last chart of the year). DUH :oops:

Billboard Pop Chart Top 5:
1) ANGIE BABY - Helen Reddy
2) LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS - Elton John
3) YOU'RE THE FIRST, THE LAST, MY EVERYTHING - Barry White
4) KUNG FU FIGHTING - Carl Douglas
5) CAT'S IN THE CRADLE - Harry Chapin

*(items in BOLD charted on the DISCO chart.)

Billboard R&B Chart #1:
1) BOOGIE ON REGGAE WOMAN - Stevie Wonder
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DISCO ACTION
12/28/74

A= Audience Response (NYC Discos)
(#1= I'LL BE HOLDING ON)
B= Retail Best Sellers: Downstairs Records (NYC)
(#1 = LOVE DON'T YOU GO THROUGH NO CHANGES ON ME)
C= Retail Best Sellers: Colony Records (NYC)
(#1: ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW)
D= Retail Best Sellers: Melody Song Shops (Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island)
(#1= BLUE EYED SOUL)

4 charts with 15 items apiece. 15 points for a #1; 1 point for a #15; 60 points max. Add them up and voila!....


THE DISCO COMPILATION CONSENSUS TOP 31
Chart #10: 12/28/75


1) I'LL BE HOLDING ON - Al Downing
(Chess 45) (46 total points/charts ABCD) (last week: #2)
2) EXPRESS - B.T. Express
(Scepter LP only) (43/ABCD) (#1)
3) LOVE DON'T YOU GO THROUGH NO CHANGES ON ME - Sister Sledge
(Atco 45) (33/ABC) (#4)
4) DOCTOR'S ORDERS - Carol Douglas
(Midland Intl. 45) (32/ACD) (#3)
5) LADY MARMALADE/ WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU - Labelle
(Epic 45/ LP cut) (24/ACD) (#10)
6) ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW - Lalo Schifrin
(20th Century 45) (24/BC) (#5)
7) SHAME, SHAME, SHAME - Shirley & Company
(Vibration 45) (22/ABCD) (#29)
8. NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE - Gloria Gaynor
(MGM 45) (22/ABC) (#7)
9) TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT - Jimmy Ruffin
(Chess 45) (22/BCD) (#8.)
10) * BLUE EYED SOUL - Carl Douglas
(20th Century LP only) (22/AD) (DEBUT)

11) YOU'VE GOT TO TRY HARDER - Ronnie Walker
(Event 45) (22/BC) (#6)
12) * SATIN SOUL - (2 versions) 1) Love Unlimited Orchestra & 2) Gene Page
(1= 20th Century LP cut/2= Atlantic LP cut) (19/AC) (DEBUT)
13) UP IN A PUFF OF SMOKE - Polly Brown
(GTO Records: ABC/Dunhill) (17/BCD) (#28.)
14) HEY GIRL, COME AND GET IT - The Stylistics
(Avco LP only) (14/AB) (#12)
15) WHEN WILL I SEE YOU AGAIN - Three Degrees
(Phila. Intl. 45) (14/D) (#17)
16) E-MAN BOOGIE - Jimmy Castor Bunch
(Atlantic LP cut -not commercially available yet) (13/A) (#19)
17) BUMP ME BABY - Dooley Silverspoon
(Cotton 45) (11/C) (#23)
18. PICK UP THE PIECES - Average White Band
(Atlantic 45) (11/D) (#25)
19) LOOK ON THE GOOD SIDE - The Invitations
(Silver Blue 45) (10/D) (#32)
20) GET DANCIN' - Disco Tex & His Sex-o-lettes
(Chelsea 45) (9/AD) (#11)

21) HAPPY PEOPLE - The Temptations
(Gordy 45) (9/BC) (#9)
22) EACH MORNING I WAKE UP - Major Harris Boogie Blues Band
(Atlantic 45) (8/B) (#24)
23) * JUST AS LONG AS WE'RE TOGETHER - Gloria Scott
(Casablanca 45) (7/B) (DEBUT)
24) (R)GIRLS - The Moments & Whatnauts
(Stang 45) (5/D) (RETURN)
25) THAT'S WHAT I WANT FOR YOU BABY - B.T. Express
(Scepter LP only) (5/A) (#27)
26) SOON EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE ALRIGHT - Third Time Around
(Denine 45) (4/BD) (#15)
27) AFRICAN SYMPHONY - Van McCoy
(Avco LP only) (4/A) (#31)
28. ASK ME - Ecstasy, Passion & Pain
(Roulette 45) (3/A) (#22)
29) * VOODOO MAGIC - The Rhodes Kids
(GRC 45) (3/C) (DEBUT)
30) * KUNG FU MAN - Ultrafunk
(Contempo 45) (1/B) (DEBUT)

31) (R) TRUSTING HEART - The Trammps
(Golden Fleece 45) (1/D) (RETURN)
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STATS:

#6, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 26, 29 & 30 NOT listed in Joel Whitburn's Hot Dance/Disco (1974-2003) book.


* = DEBUT (5): #10, 12, 23, 29, & 30
(R) = RE-ENTRY (2): #24 & 31


Dropped Off The Chart:

YOU'RE THE FIRST, THE LAST MY EVERYTHING - Barry White (was #13) (now #3 POP)
KUNG FU FIGHTING - Carl Douglas (#14) (now #4 Pop)
ONE DAY OF PEACE - Love Committee (#16)
ROCKIN' SOUL - Hues Corperation (#18.)
I FEEL LOVE COMIN' ON - Jay & The Techniques (#20) *will be back
PARTY IS A GROOVY THING - People's Choice (#21)
EVERLASTING LOVE - Carl Carlton (#26)
PHILADELPHIA - B.B. King (#30) *
SUGAR PIE GUY - The Joneses (#31)

THE FINAL TALLY:

31 items this week; 33 last week
+5 debuts + 2 returns/ -9 dropoffs
3 records on all 4 charts (up from 2 last week)
7 records on 3 charts
8 records on 2 charts
13 records on only 1 chart

RANDOM NOTES:

New #1 (but only 46 points out of a possible 60)
14 records on only 1 chart this week
Biggest Mover: SHAME, SHAME, SHAME
(up 22 points from it's debut at #29 last week to #7 this week; Can #1 be far away?)
Barry White, the producer hits the charts with Gloria Scott (is this the first Casablanca release?) & Love Unlimited Orchestra & Gene Page.
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DISCO ACTION by Tom Moulton

Column #10: 12/28/74

(New York) Al Downing's "I'll Be Holding On" is the top disco record in New York this week (by audience response). This is the B-side of the record and now Chess/Janus is going to re-serve the record to radio stations; WWRL, WNJR and WBLS-FM are already programming it. The commercial copies are 5:35 and the promotional copies will be 3:05, with the long version on the flip side.

"E-Man Boogie" by Jimmy Castor is in the top five this week and the album will be coming out the first week in January. The popularity of this record keeps on getting stronger and it is starting to spread outside of the city. Steve Santoro of the Dance Palace in Jersey City, N.J. says that "E-Man Boogie" is his biggest record.

Hollywood is getting strong reaction to "You Were Right On Time" by Ripple on GRC. The record, which is several months old, was not played when first released. Richie Kaznor started playing it about three weeks ago. Then Tony DJ, alternate DJ there, started to get a number of requests for play. Now it is a very popular record there and it looks like it may spread to other discos.

Album cuts are the big thing this week. Out of the top 15, there are nine album cuts being played. This might be partially due to the fact that record labels cut down on single releases in the month of December because of the holiday season.

One of the biggest disco records this year and now considered a "classic" is "Love Is The Message" by MFSB (also the title of their LP). It is played at least once a night in all the discos and is still in great demand by disco audiences.

Jim Walters reports from Los Angeles that the top records out there are: "Get Dancin'" by Disco Tex & His Sex-O-Lettes, "Lady Marmalade"by Labelle and "One Day of Peace" by Love Committee. "Love Don't You Go Through No Changes On Me" by Sister Sledge is getting very popular. "We're On The Right Track" by Ultra High Frequency on Scepter remains a strong record in LA discos. Although it was a top disco hit here in New York two years ago, it was not heard in LA until this summer and Scepter did press up copies to cover the LA market. "You Are The Song I've Always Wanted To Sing" by Timmie Thomas is also starting to get good reaction.

(TRUMPET FANFARE) :D Gloria Gaynor's album "Never Can Say Goodbye," will be released Jan 6 and one side of the LP is a disco side with six-minute versions of "Honey Bee" and "Never Can Say Goodbye" plus a new song all put together disco style. The total time on the side is about 20 minutes. The other side has five new songs and they are up-tempo as well.

(Take a bow, Mr. Moulton, for your ingenious idea!!! This changed EVERYTHING!!!!!!) :D


Ben Vereen, star of the Broadway show "Pippin", has a good disco single coming out on Buddah in January called, "Stop Your Half Steppin' Mama." It will have the vocal on one side and an instrumental (part 2) on the other. It is again the fine work of producers Tony Silvester & Bert Decoteaux.

[markydefad]

[quote="fabio"]Congratulation for coming up once again with some very useful information. I like the idea to compare the #1 disco and the #1 r&b since i often find it difficult to make a clear distinction between the two "genres".
I hope you'll be disciplined enough to carry on at least until the end of the 70's.
From this first list of #1 i can see how familiar i am with the disco tracks and how the r&b look completely alien to me. I better put on my roller skates and do some homework....

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Fabio, in answer to your question....

This was the time (late 1974) that the Disco charts started to influence the R&B charts & the Pop charts. The songs will be discovered in the discos first and start crossing over to the R&B & Pop charts. Tom Moulton is urging radio stations to start playing these records, especially Gloria Gaynor, knowing that without radio play they will remain on the obscure side. This will start to happen soon.

The R&B charts are primarily different from the Disco charts in that they contain ballads and other records not necessarily designed for the dance floor. The Latimore & Shirley Brown & Gladys Knight & The Pips & Tavares records are ballads. The Kool & The Gang & Rufus records were funk.

Sometimes certain records only worked on one chart; who knows why?

Disco will be topping all of the charts in the near future. 1975 was the watershed year. :D

Lastly, I too hope I have the discipline to stick with this project. Technically, it should end mid 1976 when Billboard starts to publish a compilation chart of their own, but we'll see. That's a year and a half away at this point.

[markydefad]

[quote="fabio"]Congratulation for coming up once again with some very useful information. I like the idea to compare the #1 disco and the #1 r&b since i often find it difficult to make a clear distinction between the two "genres".
I hope you'll be disciplined enough to carry on at least until the end of the 70's.
From this first list of #1 i can see how familiar i am with the disco tracks and how the r&b look completely alien to me. I better put on my roller skates and do some homework....

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Fabio, in answer to your question....

This was the time (late 1974) that the Disco charts started to influence the R&B charts & the Pop charts. The songs will be discovered in the discos first and start crossing over to the R&B & Pop charts. Tom Moulton is urging radio stations to start playing these records, especially Gloria Gaynor, knowing that without radio play they will remain on the obscure side. This will start to happen soon.

The R&B charts are primarily different from the Disco charts in that they contain ballads and other records not necessarily designed for the dance floor. The Latimore & Shirley Brown & Gladys Knight & The Pips & Tavares records are ballads. The Kool & The Gang & Rufus records were funk.

Sometimes certain records only worked on one chart; who knows why?

Disco will be topping all of the charts in the near future. 1975 was the watershed year. :D

Lastly, I too hope I have the discipline to stick with this project. Technically, it should end mid 1976 when Billboard starts to publish a compilation chart of their own, but we'll see. That's a year and a half away at this point.

[markydefad]

OK, I went back in the archives here and found this list I typed in Jan 2003 . This year-end chart replaced Tom Moulton's column in the first "Disco Action" chart for January 4, 1975............. (his column returns the following week)

The first year-end chart I'm aware of is from 1974. Unfortunately, it's ranked in ALPHABETICAL ORDER (hereafter, it will be in popularity order).

TOP 50 DISCO HITS OF '74

(New York City)

(In Alphabetical Order)

1) ASK ME - Ecstasy, Passion & Pain (Roulette)
2) BOOGIE DOWN - Eddie Kendricks (Tamla LP version)
3) CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LOVE, BABE - Barry White (20th Century Fox--vocal & inst.)
4) DANCE MASTER - Willie Henderson (Playboy -Part 1 & 2)
5) DOCTOR'S ORDERS - Carol Douglas (Midland Intl)
6) DO IT (TIL YOU'RE SATISFIED) - B.T. Express (Scepter LP only)
7) DREAM WORLD - Don Downing (Scepter Disco mix)
8. EVERLASTING LOVE - Carl Carlton (Backbeat)
9) EXPRESS - B.T. Express (Scepter LP only)
10) GOOD THINGS DON'T LAST FOREVER - Ecstasy, Passion & Pain (Roulette)

11) GOT TO GET YOU BACK - Sons Of Robin Stone (Atco)
12) HANG ON IN THERE BABY - Johnny Bristol (MGM)
13) HAPPINESS IS JUST AROUND THE BEND - The Main Ingredient (RCA)
14) HEY BABY - The Joneses (Mercury Par 1 & 2)
15) HEY GIRL COME & GET IT - The Stylistics (Avco LP only)
16) HONEY BEE - Gloria Gaynor (MGM & Columbia)
17) HONEY PLEASE - Barry White (20th Century Fox vocal & inst.)
18. I CAN'T FIGHT FOR YOUR LOVE - The Modulations (Buddah)
19) I'LL BE HOLDING ON - Al Downing (Chess disco mix)
20) I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU UP - Ecstasy, Passion & Pain (Roulette)

21) GET DANCIN' - Disco Tex & His Sex-O-Lettes (Chelsea)
22) GUT LEVEL - The Blackbyrds (Fantasy LP only)
23) LA LA PEACE SONG - O.C. Smith (Columbia)
24) LOVE EPIDEMIC - The Trammps (Golden Fleece)
25) LOVE IS THE ANSWER - The Stylistics (Avco LP only- vocal & inst)
26) LOVE IS THE MESSAGE - MFSB (Phila. Intl LP only)
27) MACHINE GUN - The Commodores (Motown)
28. MAINLINE - Ashford & Simpson (WB)
29) MELTING POT - Boris Gardiner (Dynamic Import-Jamaica)
30) MIGHTY CLOUDS OF JOY - Mighty Clouds Of Joy (ABC LP only)

31) NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE - Gloria Gaynor (MGM)
32) ROCK ME AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN - Lyn Collins (People)
33) ROCK THE BOAT - The Hues Corporation (RCA)
34) ROCK YOUR BABY - George McCrae (T.K.)
35) SHAME, SHAME, SHAME - Shirley & Company (Vibration)
36) SISTERS & BROTHERS - Rita Fortune (Columbia vocal & inst)
37) STOP, I DON'T NEED NO SYMPATHY - Lyn Roman (Brunswick)
38. SUGAR PIE GUY - The Joneses (Mercury - Part 1 & 2)
39) TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT - Jimmy Ruffin (Chess-(English Polydor)
40) THE BOTTLE - Gil Scott-Heron (it says "Heroic"!!! should say "Heroin" ) (Strata East LP only)

41) THEN CAME YOU - The Spinners & Dionne Warwick(e) (Atlantic)
42) THE PLAYER - First Choice (Philly Groove LP only)
43) TSOP - MFSB (Phila. Intl)
44) WATERBED - LTG Exchange (Wand Part 1 & 2)
45) WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND - Black Ivory (Kwanza)
46) WHEN THE FUEL RUNS OUT - Executive Suite (Babylon)
47) WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE - The Trammps (Golden Fleece)
48. WHERE IS THE LOVE - The Whispers (Janus LP only)
49) YOU LITTLE TRUSTMAKER - The Tymes (RCA - unreleased original & released version)
50) YOU'RE THE FIRST, THE LAST, MY EVERYTHING - Barry White (20th Century Fox --vocal & inst.)

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OK, now let's add all the #1 Billboard Pop Chart Hits of 1974 in order of their appearance:

* = DISCO HIT

1) TIME IN A BOTTLE - Jim Croce (1/5/75 2nd week at #1)
2) THE JOKER - Steve Miller Band (1/12/74 - 1 week)
3) SHOW AND TELL - Al Wilson (1/19/74 - 1 week)
4) YOU'RE SIXTEEN - Ringo Starr (1/26/74 - 1 week)
5) THE WAY WE WERE - Barbra Streisand (2/2/74 - 3 weeks)
6) * LOVE'S THEME - Love Unlimited Orchestra (2/9/74 - 1 week)
7) SEASONS IN THE SUN - Terry Jacks (3/3/74 - 3 weeks) :oops: :oops: :oops: (gag me!!!)
8. DARK LADY - Cher (3/23/74 - 1 week)
9) SUNSHINE ON MY SHOULDERS - John Denver (3/30/74 - 1 week)
10) HOOKED ON A FEELING - Blue Swede (4/6/74 - 1 week)

11) BENNIE AND THE JETS - Elton John (4/13/74 - 1 week)
12) * TSOP - MFSB & the Three Degrees (4/20/74 - 2 weeks)
13) THE LOCO-MOTION - Grand Funk Railroad (5/4/74 - 2 weeks)
14) THE STREAK - Ray Stevens (5/19/74 - 3weeks) :oops: :oops: :oops: (gag me!!!!)
15) BAND ON THE RUN - Paul McCartney & Wings (6/8/74 - 1 week)
16) BILLY, DON'T BE A HERO - Bo Donaldson & The Heywoods (6/15/74 - 2 weeks) :oops: :oops: :oops: :evil: :evil: :evil:
17) SUNDOWN - Gordon Lightfoot (6/29/74 - 1 week)
18. * ROCK THE BOAT - Hues Corporation (7/6/74 - 1 week)
19) * ROCK YOUR BABY - George McCrae ( 7/13/74 - 2 weeks)
20) ANNIE'S SONG - John Denver (7/27/74 - 2 weeks)

21) FEEL LIKE MAKIN' LOVE - Roberta Flack (8/10/74 - 1 week)
22) THE NIGHT CHICAGO DIED - Paper Lace (8/17/74 - 1 week) :oops: :oops: :oops: :roll:
23) (YOU'RE) HAVING MY BABY - Paul Anka & Odia Coates (8/24/74 - 3 weeks)
24) I SHOT THE SHERIFF - Eric Clapton (9/14/74 - 1 week)
25) * CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LOVE, BABE - Barry White (9/21/74 - 1 week)
26) ROCK ME GENTLY - Andy Kim (9/28/74 - 1 week)
27) I HONESTLY LOVE YOU - Olivia Newton-John (10/4/74- 2 weeks)
28. NOTHING FROM NOTHING - Billy Preston (10/19/74 - 1 week)
29) * THEN CAME YOU - Dionne Warwick(e) & The Spinners (10/26/74 - 1 week)
30) YOU HAVEN'T DONE NOTHIN' - Stevie Wonder (11/2/74 - 1 week)

31) YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET - Bachman-Turner Overdrive (11/9/74 - 1 week)
32) WHATEVER GETS YOU THROUGH THE NIGHT - John Lennon (11/16/74 - 1 week)
33) I CAN HELP - Billy Swan (11/23/74 - 2 weeks)
34) * KUNG FU FIGHTING - Carl Douglas (12/7/74 - 2 weeks)
35) CAT'S IN THE CRADLE - Harry Chapin (12/21/74 -1 week)
36) ANGIE BABY - Helen Reddy (12/28/74 - 1 week)


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The 1974 Billboard R&B Chart #1 Records:

* = Disco Hit

1) UNTIL YOU COME BACK TO ME (THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA DO) - Aretha Franklin (1/12/74 - 1 week)
2) I'VE GOT TO USE MY IMAGINATION - Gladys Knight & The Pips (1/19/74 - 1 week)
3) LIVIN' FOR YOU - Al Green (1/26/74 - 1 week)
4) LET YOUR HAIR DOWN - The Temptations (2/2/74 - 1 week)
5) * BOOGIE DOWN - Eddie Kendricks (2/9/74 - 3 weeks)
6) MIGHTY LOVE - PT. 1 - The Spinners (3/2/74 - 2 weeks)
7) LOOKING FOR A LOVE - Bobby Womack (3/16/74 - 3 weeks)
8. BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ME - Gladys Knight & The Pips (4/6/74-2 weeks)
9) * TSOP (THE SOUND OF PHILADELPHIA) - MFSB featuring The Three Degrees (4/20/74 - 1 week)
10) THE PAYBACK - PT.1 - James Brown (4/27/74 - 2 weeks)

11) DANCING MACHINE - The Jackson Five (5/11/74 - 1 week)
12) I'M IN LOVE - Aretha Franklin (5/18/74 - 2 weeks)
13) BE THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU GOT - William DeVaughan (6/1/74 - 1 week)
14) HOLLYWOOD SWINGING - Kool & The Gang (6/8/74 - 1 week)
15) SIDESHOW - Blue Magic (6/15/74 - 1 week)
16) FINALLY GOT MYSELF TOGETHER (I'M A CHANGED MAN) - The Impressions (6/22/74 - 2 weeks)
17) * ROCK YOUR BABY - George McCrae (7/6/74 - 2 weeks)
18. MY THANG - James Brown (7/20/74 - 2 weeks)
19) FEEL LIKE MAKIN' LOVE - Roberta Flack (8/3/74 - 5 weeks)
20) * CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LOVE, BABE - Barry White (9/7/74 - 3 weeks)

21) YOU HAVEN'T DONE NOTHIN' - Stevie Wonder (9/28/74 - 2 weeks)
22) PAPA DON'T TAKE NO MESS - PART 1 - James Brown (10/12/74 - 1 week)
23) * DO IT (TIL YOU'RE SATISFIED) - B.T. Express (10/19/74 - 1 week)
24) HIGHER PLANE - Kool & The Gang (10/26/74 - 1 week)
25) LET'S STRAIGHTEN IT OUT - Latimore (11/2/74 - 2 weeks)
26) WOMAN TO WOMAN - Shirley Brown (11/16/74 - 2 weeks)
27 I FEEL A SONG (IN MY HEART) - Gladys Knight & The Pips (11/30/74 - 2 weeks)
28. YOU GOT THE LOVE - Rufus featuring Chaka Khan (12/14/74 - 1 week)
29) SHE'S GONE - Tavares (12/21/74 - 1 week)
30) BOOGIE ON REGGAE WOMAN - Stevie Wonder (12/28/74 -2 weeks)

Now you can compare & contrast the 3 charts.

Interestingly , the ONLY R&B #1s to crossover to #1 Pop were the Disco records. The peeps wanna DANCE!!!!!

[DISCODISK]

[quote="markydefad"]

THE BOTTLE - Gil Scott-Heron (it says "Heroic"!!! should say "Heroin" ) (Strata East LP only)

:lol: :lol: :lol:


45) WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND - Black Ivory (Ewamza)

should read KWANZA




hey your nice and early this week marky, gotta keep to those deadlines

[markydefad]

Thanks for the info DD. I edited.

[DISCODISK]

quote="markydefad"]


7) SEASONS IN THE SUN - Terry Jacks (3/3/74 - 3 weeks) :oops: :oops: :oops: (gag me!!!)


GAG ME :o im trying to decide if youre being a little to hard on the pop stars of the day :-? or maybee not! the canadians can take the blame for this


14) THE STREAK - Ray Stevens (5/19/74 -3
weeks) :oops: :oops: :oops: (gag me!!!!)


well compared to one of rays other fab hits i heard the other day on the radio this should have won a grammy! and the one i heard...'bridget the midget[the queen of the blues] :o :o 'everything is beautiful' is a classic though'


16) BILLY, DON'T BE A HERO - Bo Donaldson & The Heywoods (6/15/74 - 2 weeks) :oops: :oops: :oops: :evil: :evil: :evil:


i dont recall this version but i think we had it worse than you as it was a number one here for paper lace :o quinny gave it its first spins,the rest is history :lol:

[sfbeary]

i do think that it can be argued that the #1 right after "The Night Chicago Died" is even gaggier . . .

YOU'RE HAVING MY BABY :x :x :x :x :x :x

especially because it stayed #1 for THREE weeks!

it's good for me to read these things because, like many of you, i look back at the music of a pivotal disco year like 1974 and thing, wow, things back then were just soooooo much better. but to see that "The Night Chicago Died" was #1 back to back with "You're Having My Baby" for a combined month really does suck the nostalgia right out of you.

[fabio]

Well MR Markydefad, thanks for the little hystory lesson. :D
I have just started to read the book "Hystory of the american disco culture" by Tim Lawrence (?)
It traces the evolution of the music played in the disco. I am at the very beginning where he is talking about Eddie Hendricks and Manu di bango. :o
I Guess it's a long way before i can read about Gloria Gaynor and Donna Summer. :cry: :cry: :cry:

[fabio]

it's good for me to read these things because, like many of you, i look back at the music of a pivotal disco year like 1974 and thing, wow, things back then were just soooooo much better. but to see that "The Night Chicago Died" was #1 back to back with "You're Having My Baby" for a combined month really does suck the nostalgia right out of you.[/quote]

I totally agree with you!!
If we look in perspective,at least in UK, we had some little gems lately, even if the popular charts are full of c**p.

[markydefad]

Originally Posted by sfbeary

i do think that it can be argued that the #1 right after "The Night Chicago Died" is even gaggier . . .

YOU'RE HAVING MY BABY :x :x :x :x :x :x

especially because it stayed #1 for THREE weeks!

it's good for me to read these things because, like many of you, i look back at the music of a pivotal disco year like 1974 and thing, wow, things back then were just soooooo much better. but to see that "The Night Chicago Died" was #1 back to back with "You're Having My Baby" for a combined month really does suck the nostalgia right out of you.

Yeah, Barry it did cross my mind to put the "gag me" on the Paul Anka/Odia Coates tune. I know this is a reviled record because of it's sexist lyric. "Having MY BABY"...sings Anka. No "our" baby. It's all about HIM. I haven't heard this record in so many decades that it isn't really on my pet peeve list. Although I do understand why it's on yours.

I also thought about commenting on "Dark Lady" by Cher--not one of her finest efforts. BUT it's CHER, so I just gotta give her a pass. :roll: It would be a smudge on my peep's rep to badmouth CHER--she's a GODDESS!!!! :D

Now Barry, I agree that there was a lot of DRECK on the POP chart--but look at that R&B list. Everything on there is primo --choice grade-A classic soul. We can't say that today, can we? "Look what they've done to our songs, MA!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

When I was back in Wisconsin in 1974, pop radio blasted the shit out of " The Night Chicago Died" &"Billy, Don't Be a Hero" & "The Streak" & "Seasons In The Sun" (actually written by Jacques Brel but sung in such an insipid, wimpy way by Jacks). I HATED this music with a passion. It was the nadir of Pop; But in light of what they play today...I'm thinking I may have to rethink my opinions. :oops: :oops: :oops:

[shootyourshot]

Hey marky, I've got copies of both the Hot 100 & the Top LP chart for this time period. If you want, I could report on the progress of disco singles and LPs on the mainstream charts.