Michael Jackson had flops too

[SandraDee]

Originally Posted by Salsoul1975

Could "Another Part Of Me" (1988) also be considered a flop? Considering how the first five tunes off of Bad went to #1, APOM missed the Top 10. It's a good song but not one you think off the top of your head when it comes to Bad.

'APOM' is actually my favourite track on 'Bad'; for me it's the only track that still has some of the old Off The Wall/Thriller magic about it with those terrific horns & jagged bassline. The rest of Bad wasn't bad, just a step in a new direction which for me wasn't as special as his previous 2 Qunicy Jones LPs.

[Salsoul1975]

"You Can't Win" was no winner on the Hot 100, and neither was that grand collaboration "Pops, We Love You" (did Jacko take part in this one--I forget), both of which were released in early 1979. I think the fallout from "The Wiz" may have hindered some things there at the time.

[Cdnbob]

Wasn't the single "Farewell, My Summer Love" a flop too? I think Motown released this as a single around the time that either "Off The Wall" or "Thriller" first came out and I don't think it did very well on the Billboard R&B charts.

[Salsoul1975]

Originally Posted by Cdnbob

Wasn't the single "Farewell, My Summer Love" a flop too? I think Motown released this as a single around the time that either "Off The Wall" or "Thriller" first came out and I don't think it did very well on the Billboard R&B charts.

"Farewell My Summer Love" was originally recorded sometime in the early 70's, but wasn't released until after the pandemonium of "Thriller" began to ebb. Most likely the late spring/early summer of 1984. It scratched the Top 40 for a few weeks.

"One Day In Your Life" was also a Hot 100 stiff in the spring of 1981.

The Jackson 5 had a period when their songs didn't perform so hot on the Hot 100, particularly in 1973. "Hallelujah Day" and "Get It Together" didn't make the Top 20. "Whatever You Got, I Want", the follow-up to "Dancing Machine" fizzled after spending a week or two in the Top 40 in late 1974. Going back to 1972, the oft-forgotten "Sugar Daddy" was their only Top 10 that year. "Little Bitty Pretty One", "Looking Through The Windows" and "Corner Of The Sky" all couldn't make the Top 10 (not flops per se, but considering how they were white hot in 1970-71, 1972 was what one could call disappointing, chart-wise).

[KayJayEm54]

Originally Posted by drh

eeeehm "Get it" is not a good song in my opinion, I'm not surprised that this flopped. They relied too much on the Jackson/Wonder combination and did a litte "Beat it"-variation. Same thing in my opinion with "State of Shock" Jacksons/Jagger, the whole album "Victory§ is a flop. But the rest MJ did, especially with The Jacksons, was really good.

I have to disagree with you there - Torture was a brilliant single and is an absolutely blinding track that I have been playing off the Victory album for some time now. There's a great slow one on that album too - One More Chance. I do agree that State of Shock was a shocker when it was released and I don't know why they collaborated with Mick Jagger, but I guess a few others were doing that too - David Bowie for one!

[KayJayEm54]

Originally Posted by SandraDee

'APOM' is actually my favourite track on 'Bad'; for me it's the only track that still has some of the old Off The Wall/Thriller magic about it with those terrific horns & jagged bassline. The rest of Bad wasn't bad, just a step in a new direction which for me wasn't as special as his previous 2 Qunicy Jones LPs.

Yip, I agree - I couldn't get into Bad after Thriller and Off The Wall - I still can't, but APOM is a good track and quite catchy like something left over from Off The Wall or Thriller and stuck on Bad so that it didn't get lost.

Now talking about left overs - how many more albums worth of music is there in the vaults and how soon will we start to hear them?????????

Will a 'live' album taken from the 'This is it' rehearsals be a winner or a bad taste production????? I just know we haven't heard the last of Michael and if done tastefully, I am looking forward to hearing those tracks that have lain in the vault for all these years.

[drlove]

Farewell My Summer Love is actually one of my all-time favorite MJ tunes. The fact that it was an 11 y/o recording (that had sat in Motown's vaults) that still managed to crack the top 40 is a testament to (1) Michael Jackson's awesome appeal in 1983-84 and (2) the strength of the song itself. Michael hadn't made a Motown recording since 1975, but Motown still wanted to cash in on his early '80s superstardom, and the 1984 remix of the 1973 track Farewell My Summer Love was the result. I say, "Thank You Motown" for dusting off that lost gem !

[KayJayEm54]

Originally Posted by Salsoul1975

"Farewell My Summer Love" was originally recorded sometime in the early 70's, but wasn't released until after the pandemonium of "Thriller" began to ebb. Most likely the late spring/early summer of 1984. It scratched the Top 40 for a few weeks.

"One Day In Your Life" was also a Hot 100 stiff in the spring of 1981.

The Jackson 5 had a period when their songs didn't perform so hot on the Hot 100, particularly in 1973. "Hallelujah Day" and "Get It Together" didn't make the Top 20. "Whatever You Got, I Want", the follow-up to "Dancing Machine" fizzled after spending a week or two in the Top 40 in late 1974. Going back to 1972, the oft-forgotten "Sugar Daddy" was their only Top 10 that year. "Little Bitty Pretty One", "Looking Through The Windows" and "Corner Of The Sky" all couldn't make the Top 10 (not flops per se, but considering how they were white hot in 1970-71, 1972 was what one could call disappointing, chart-wise).

FMSL was a number 7 hit in the UK when it was re-released in 1984 as part of an album of 'lost' Motown tracks - what a coincidence that he was still riding high in the charts on the Epic label with Thriller - two years after its initial release, spawning all those memorable hits!!!!!!!

[SandraDee]

Originally Posted by KayJayEm54

Now talking about left overs - how many more albums worth of music is there in the vaults and how soon will we start to hear them?????????

There was a box set released that included a few tracks that didn't make it to MJ LPs - I promised myself I'd get a copy but they are getting pricey now MJ's died.

[kdavid13]

Originally Posted by KayJayEm54

Yip, I agree - I couldn't get into Bad after Thriller and Off The Wall - I still can't, but APOM is a good track and quite catchy like something left over from Off The Wall or Thriller and stuck on Bad so that it didn't get lost.

Funny you should mention this - since Bad is my favorite MJ album (with Off the wall a very close 2nd).