The most difficult disco record to find?

[Graham_Start]

Originally Posted by Chala

LOL, well there goes hope for that big money theory. I do have Battlestar Galactica LP by Giorgio Moroder, worth anything?

$20 if it's in mint condition, maybe half that if it has any signs of wear or tear.

[Chala]

Man Graham you know how to burst a bubble.

[Graham_Start]

Sorry, I'm just keeping it real. Records that were pressed by the thousands seldom command high prices. There are exceptions like with certain Beatles and Elvis records, which while not rare in numbers, are *very* rare to find in excellent condition, and it is only those which are worth the big bucks.

For a record to be worth something, there has to be significantly more demand than supply. Seems that Battlestar Galactica wouldn't fit into that category as you could *still* find sealed copies online a few years ago; that's how I got mine for about $15.

(as an aside... apart from some of the promo-only 12s, there isn't much on Casablanca that's rare, since Neil Bogart was notorious for pressing and shipping vast quantities of everything on the label. It was actually a trick to make sales seem higher than they were and thus earn more chart success -- and thus promotion -- by counting units shipped, as opposed to units actually sold. The old joke about him was that he'd buy three records to sell one. You couldn't pull that stunt today because the rules have changed, and now soundscan determines what is really selling.)

The most valuable disco records are ones that were pressed in small numbers, like early promo-only releases, albums on certain obscure labels, or ones that didn't do all that well back in the day but have since gone on to cult status (Candido's "Thousand Finger Man" comes to mind, as does "Delirium" by Francine McGee). A lot of the titles on labels like Queen Constance, P&P, Champagne, etc., are valuable simply because they're so few of them to begin with, there are collectors who want anything on those labels, and it doesn't take many people to start bidding wars.

Generally, any commercially-released title by a big-name disco act was pressed in large quantities, and even now there are still probably fewer people looking to obtain them than there are people trying to sell them.

[Chala]

Ok Graham how bout this? Jimmy Sabater "To be with you" 1976 12 Inch Salsa Records

[Graham_Start]

Originally Posted by Chala

Ok Graham how bout this? Jimmy Sabater "To be with you" 1976 12 Inch Salsa Records

I have no clue on that one.

[ashley]

.. 12" copies of Jimmy Sabater "To be with you" (in mint condition) go for about 40 dollars .. see the following link:
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[Chala]

Thanks Ashley.

[iloveurobeat]

"Roxy Music - Angel Eyes Promo only 12" on ATCO"

I have been looking for this record for a very long time!

I understand that it has a totally different version than the general release had. I have never seen a copy for sale anywhere. Is it really that hard to find?

[Chala]

Contact Bobby Viteritti he may be able to help. I have a mix of his where he flawlessly mixes Roxy Music – Angel Eyes into George McCraes – Don’t You Feel My Love, then exits with Revanche's - Revenge. Its in MP-3 format but he may have the Vinyl.

[boogyjuice]

"You're My Latest Inspiration" by Original Just Us
- 1983 / O.J.U. Records ( Private Label )

http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildat...mnr=4795003157

[UltimateBeeGeesFan]

Originally Posted by Graham_Start

$20 if it's in mint condition, maybe half that if it has any signs of wear or tear.

Giorgio did a great job on the Midnight Express soundtrack and I enjoy his synth. in The Three Degrees' albums from the late 70's.
Giorgio was a pioneer in synth, which is why he is a hero for me, as I'm a synth freak; 70's synthis the best-80's synth is much more canned sounding and boring; 80's music (for the most part, though there are exceptions )sucks, 70's grooves my world. oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

disco IS late 70's! it died in the damn early 80;s!
although today, in Eastern Europe and former Soviet bloc countires, as well as Afghanistamd, it's still popular; guess I know where I'll be moving soon: Russia! Я говорю чут чут по-Русский!
I'll always remember the time I played "You Stepped into my Life" from the Bee Gees' 1976 album to a Russian friend of mine, who actually recognized it! None of my American friends would know that music!

[eddieo]

Originally Posted by Chala

Contact Bobby Viteritti he may be able to help. I have a mix of his where he flawlessly mixes Roxy Music – Angel Eyes into George McCraes – Don’t You Feel My Love, then exits with Revanche's - Revenge. Its in MP-3 format but he may have the Vinyl.

I would love to hear that, but I don't know how to legally ask where I might find it, since:
Asking for MP3s is illegal. Do NOT post requests or offer to make or trade MP3s, CD-Rs or URLs where to download music or other illegal activities.
is it perhaps for sale somewhere, or does Bobby have it on a MySpace page or something?

[STEPHEN L FREEMAN]

Originally Posted by jllevy123

This may not be the MOST difficult record to find, but I am having immense difficulties finding "Walk The Night" by The Skatt Brothers.

The promo 12" was hard to get, even when it came out. Limited copies pressed by Casablanca. The 12" version was included on a Polydor released LP that had 4, or 5 Casablanca 12" versions on it. (Skatt Bros, Teri DeSario, etc...) I can't remember the name of the release series, though. (Late 80's?)

[STEPHEN L FREEMAN]

Originally Posted by jllevy123

I do remember when there was a remix of Abba's "The Visitor" where only a few hundred copies were pressed before Abba filed suit to stop production. Copies went for a couple of hundred bucks each IF you could find one. Then, years later when Abba had broken up and probably were eager for every buck they could generate finally agreed to let the remix be pressed and the value of the original copies plummeted. But I see from observing the comments of the real pros on this site that the newer pressings probably weren't as desirable - oh well, I wish I had kept my 2 original copies!

I think you're confusing "The Visitors", with "Lay All Your Love On Me". The Atlantic promo 12"s of both tracks were the same as the LP versions.

In 1980, DiscoNet Remix Service released an edit of "Lay All Your Love On Me", but didn't get permission from Atlantic Records, nor Polar Music, to do so. (Even though the label stated that they did.) ABBA sued DiscoNet and they were ordered to surrender all copies that hadn't been sold yet (about 200, I think) and they were held in the basement of a NYC courthouse for years. (Luckily, I'd bought the last copy that the South Florida Record Pool received. PHEW!) During the early 80's, original press copies went for about $150.00+

In 1982, Hot Tracks Remix Service released an edit of "The Visitors". But they did go through the proper channels, and acquired permission from Atlantic Records. 500 copies were allowed to be pressed. Although it was bootlegged on Sunshine Sound Acetates, original copies that I saw, fetched around $75.00 to $100.00.

Late in the 80's, the DiscoNet suit was settled and the remaining copies were released. DiscoNet unloaded them immediately. (That's when I got my back-up copy) And they went for $50.00, from DiscoNet. The "collector" price for the earlier copies dropped, as well. There's since been a few bootlegs of DiscoNet's Raul Rodriguez mix of "LAYLOM". Some that look like the real thing, with a copy of the DiscoNet label.

The mix was so infamous that Almighty duplicated it as "The Disconet Mix", on one of the Abbacadabra releases. And the DiscoNet version of Lisa's "Jump Shout" is purposefully structured the same, on the intro and the break.
(1 & 2 & 3 & BANG, 1 & BANG BANG BANG) Hell! I copied the structure on 3 tracks that I can remember doing for HT.

On The Best Of Hot Tracks - Volume One, they recreated the original HT "Visitors" mix from CD, and added an easier mix-out. But the ending's chorus-echo was dropped from the mix. They recreated the mixes from Hot Tracks - Volume One, and "fixed" certain elements. (But, with Cerrone's "Trippin' On The Moon", the "fixed" Hot Tracks version bears no resemblance to Steve Algozino's original, Patrick Cowley inspired mix.)

Then, in the 90's on Issue 10-5, Hot Tracks remastered and re-released the original Greg Silva, Hot Tracks "Visitors" mix, from 1982, with permission from Atlantic, and in response to popular demand.

The only copies worth anything, anymore, are the original press of the DiscoNet "LAYLOM", the original press of the Hot Tracks "Visitors", and the red-marble vinyl copies (only 50 were made) of the Hot Tracks Issue 10-5 release, with "The Visitors".

[JussiK]

Originally Posted by UltimateBeeGeesFan

disco IS late 70's! it died in the damn early 80;s!
although today, in Eastern Europe and former Soviet bloc countires, as well as Afghanistamd, it's still popular; guess I know where I'll be moving soon: Russia! Я говорю чут чут по-Русский!

Places like Barcelona and Paris where I have witnessed young people ( as opposed to old farts) grooving to 70's disco en masse recently...to think all those dancers were from behind the former iron curtain...!