There's something weird with this LP cover for Motown Discotech #3

[Teddybear]

It sounds laughable to me supporting a 1976 Disco Duck's plot theory against the genre based in a word translated from Spanish into English (where it loses its slang significance) that could only be understood by part of the Latin American USA community (in a general way much more receptive to Disco music than white Americans who were supposedly the real conspiracy's target).

And it's laughable like the song itself . But It wasn't my intention to mock at you, Mixmachine. I don't consider Disco Duck an anthem but it was funny at the time. And that's it.

[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by Teddybear

I don't consider Disco Duck an anthem but it was funny at the time. And that's it.

And it still is, certainly on the Belgian Funfairs

Another one:



It's a classic! People haven't forgotten it.

[Teddybear]

I'm sure it is, VS. And here we have another jewel where we can see the real target of the Duck:

I can give credence to Dees for having a disco nose for business (same to you, Video ). But I'm sure nor he or his loving mother could foresee the hit the song was to become.

And if someone can find comfort in this, we must remember Disco Duck was excluded from the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, and Rick from the Grammy (Gosh!! Have I just started another thorny but funny controversy?)

I promise not to allow myself to mention the forbidden word again during this Holy Week (you know, the word starting with S and ending with F, with the N in the middle). BTW, what was the topic of this thread?

[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by Teddybear

what was the topic of this thread?

the album cover Remicks asked a question about and then I posted a pic of a DD recordsleeve and then....disaster struck

But you know what bothers me the most with this whole thread?

Disco Duck is in my head for days now and me and the staff are singing "Quack Quack" all the time And some of them are in their early Twenties! Hey, they see the fun of it, they laugh with it and they do hear that there's a whole galaxy between this comedy and the real Disco that is played during the day.

And now for something completely different, the tracklist of Motown Discotech # 3

A1.Commodores: Slippery When Wet
A2.Diana Ross & Marvin Gaye: Don't Knock My Love
A3.Eddie Kendricks: Keep On Truckin'
A4.The Jackson 5:Forever Came Today
B1.The Temptations: Glasshouse
B2.Willie Hutch: Love Power
B3.The Supremes: Where Do I Go From Here
B4.Smokey Robinson: Virgin Man
B5.The Miracles: Do It Baby

BTW, Remicks, is that girl wearing panties or is it just my vivid imagination?

[Teddybear]

I find this discussion very positive. The varied standpoints, information and experiences have allowed me to deepen my intellectual and emotional knowledge of my beloved Disco music. I say "Thanks" to the contributors, and to Videoskooter
for your time, efforts and well-balanced role as moderator.

Diversity is our family jewel here in DiscoMusic.com. 'Cause we are family, ain't we?

[sfbeary]

say what you want about the tacky cover — the notable thing about this LP is that it boasts an alternate version of the Jackson Five's "Forever Came Today" that wasn't available elsewhere until the 2001 2-on-1 CD reissue of Dancing Machine/Moving Violation. the second half cuts out the vocals to focus on the ecstatic instrumentation.

i'm generally not big on dance remakes, but for my money "Forever Came Today" ranks among the Jackson Five/Jacksons' greatest disco tracks. i may even go out on a limb and say it trumps the Diana Ross & the Supremes original.

oh marky, Miss Ross worshipper, would you refute this?

[SandraDee]

Originally Posted by sfbeary

for my money "Forever Came Today" ranks among the Jackson Five/Jacksons' greatest disco tracks.

Strangely enough, I've just been reading 'Turn The Beat Around' by Peter Shapiro & he cites the bassline of this track as 'the root of nearly everything that we now think of as disco'. Praise indeed.

[wever]

Originally Posted by Mixmachine

You may not know that "Duck" (Pato) in Spanish means Gay, but take my word for it, (or ask anyone you know in California), but this is a very well known Spanish/Latin American 'slang', one that even little children knew and fought about in school yard brawls. (I don't know about now though).

Here is a loosely translated example, one of the many variations used

A school bully will tell you, "you left some feathers trailing behind you"

He was calling you a "Pato" (duck) or Gay, at the time this was the worst thing you could say to someone in the Latin world. (well next to cussing your mother out), again , I don't know about now.

wow!!!!is so so true that every country where is speaked spanish have their own expresions, you know we share the language but with different cultures, and culture reflects in the language!
it's curious that here we say "got feather" (tiene pluma) to somebody who has afeminate moves, refering normally to gay people. Always wondered where that expression comes from, what's the relation between gays and feathers? never had a reference to ducks but thid could be a possible origin.

about this discussion (i enjoyed soooooo much to read!!!! THANX!!!) i got to say that, FOR ME, SNF nor Disco Duck were anti-disco, made to defeat it in concious way, but they contributed for sure to "destroy" it.
I like to think there was some kind of conspiracy against disco because of its premature and unfair death, but i also know that same thing happened to other music genres. There's always the genuine that some start to love, then all the mass want it and it comes mainstream with the help of the business that's just can see money in it (music is just a prostitute for them), then we see all the commercial bullshit result to fit with the new audience as fast as possible because they know it will be forgotten so fast too. That's always the same cicle. Maybe the only difference is that there wasn't such an attack against it like the "disco suck".

One example? In my case i can tell you about Rumba which is such a precious genre to dance and be happy, only good vibes! with a cultural background coming from Cuba and mixing with the actocton culture: flamenco. Also opened to new influences (see achilifunk), and as other succesful musical phenomenons (still) has comercial products that just damage such a beautiful music.
even if you don't like Rumba you can understand by hearing:
YouTube - Peret Gitana Hechicera (Peret: the King Of Catalan Rumba singing to Barcelona!)
YouTube - Melody- Gorila dance (and Melody doin reference to animal dance too ..... nuff said).

[markydefad]

Originally Posted by sfbeary

say what you want about the tacky cover — the notable thing about this LP is that it boasts an alternate version of the Jackson Five's "Forever Came Today" that wasn't available elsewhere until the 2001 2-on-1 CD reissue of Dancing Machine/Moving Violation. the second half cuts out the vocals to focus on the ecstatic instrumentation.

i'm generally not big on dance remakes, but for my money "Forever Came Today" ranks among the Jackson Five/Jacksons' greatest disco tracks. i may even go out on a limb and say it trumps the Diana Ross & the Supremes original.

oh marky, Miss Ross worshipper, would you refute this?

no barry, I'm inclined to agree with you. The original by Miss Ross & the Supremes was done at a slower, more measured tempo, in the vein of "Reflections" --probably recorded in the same timespan as a followup, although the light & breezy "In & Out Of Love" was actually released as a single in between the two. "Forever Came Today" wasn't as big a hit as I hoped for [peaked in the late 20's [#28 Pop/#17 R&B] on the Pop chart] but I was definitely a fan--however, the Jackson Five version was really energized, accelerating the bpms from around 100 up to 118...I have vivid memories of it being played at Buzzby's on Polk Street in SF in the spring of 1975.

I recently played the first Shalamar LP and was surprised to hear them cover "FCT" around 2 years after the J5 version...Shalamar used a similar J5 arrangement--but not to much effect. They musta got a package deal on Motown covers since this also featured the "Uptown Festival" medley and Smokey Robinson's "Ooh Baby Baby" as well.

I have to pull out the 'Moving Violations" LP and compare that version to the "Disc-O-Tech 3" version.....

[SandraDee]

Originally Posted by markydefad

I have to pull out the 'Moving Violations" LP and compare that version to the "Disc-O-Tech 3" version.....

I've just played both versions & both sound very similar to me. The Disco-o-tech 3 version has a slightly more instrumental 2nd half in a Tom Moulton style but I think that's the only difference.

[Mixmachine]

I just now finished catching up with last Sunday's Comics section and came across this last syndicated strip of 'OPUS' by Berkeley Breathed.

Tell me what you all make of the punch line..(kind of hard to read but manageable)

Arts & Living: Comics (washingtonpost.com)