Cerrone-one of the best of Euro and specifically french disco;essential disco

[UltimateBeeGeesFan]

After listening tot Cerrone's grooooooooovy disco music, I have to say that he is one of the best, but here in America unknown/underappreciated disco artists. His track, "Love in C Minor" is epicly far out, it's 'too much' and is something one could really get down to! An example of disco's instrumental qualities being predominant with voices being simple lines repeated. A must for any discotheque!

[Cory Ander]

Originally Posted by UltimateBeeGeesFan

After listening tot Cerrone's grooooooooovy disco music, I have to say that he is one of the best, but here in America unknown/underappreciated disco artists. His track, "Love in C Minor" is epicly far out, it's 'too much' and is something one could really get down to! An example of disco's instrumental qualities being predominant with voices being simple lines repeated. A must for any discotheque!

I couldn't agree more, the man's music is exquisite. Whenever I listen to "The Music of Life" or the "Give Me Love"/"Love is Here"/"Love is the Answer"medley it seems to take my mind on a complete journey....how radio program directors missed the magic in music like that baffles me...

[Dayna]

The first Cerrone song I heard in the Disco was Supernature.and I absolutely LOVED IT..still do..
Then I got turned on to Give me love and Love in C Minor..I have to say his music is genius..

[Videoskooter]

What can I say? WHAT CAN I SAY?

30 years ago when LIcM came out I was hooked in 1 second and that feeling didn't leave me. If I was selected for the first mission to Mars and I could take 1 record with me....with the European cover of course

This is not the ultimate partyrecord, I can sit at home in my clubchair and enjoy every minute of this erotic tale. This is music for sophisticated clubs, not for the sweaty dancefloors! This is for lovers! This is the Italian-French touch! Romance on the dancefloor! Finesse, savoir vivre. No wonder Nile Rodgers teams up so much with Cerrone. C'est Chic! They have the same class!

People who can not sense the beauty of this one simply lack emotional intelligence.



Playing a Cerrone record simply states:



and just:

[QUINNY]

Originally Posted by Videoskooter

People who can not sense the beauty of this one simply lack emotional intelligence.

And there was I thinking the complete opposite!
Nice 'Quinnyism', by the way.

[RetroRuss]

Originally Posted by Videoskooter

People who can not sense the beauty of this one simply lack emotional intelligence.

Originally Posted by QUINNY

And there was I thinking the complete opposite!
Nice 'Quinnyism', by the way.[/center]

ROFL!!!

I laugh because again it is a simple matter of taste. I recall 'Give Me Love' and 'Supernature' BITD being played in the London clubs but not 'Love in C Minor'.

Personally speaking if one is talking French disco then I would put Le Pamplemousse above Cerrone. From 'Shake Your Boom Boom' to 'Do You Have Any', I think they were original and exciting. French Disco generally I think didn't really appeal to the masses here in the UK, and certainly not at the venues I used to frequent in London c. 1976/77.

I used to 'feel' Give Me Love so fortunately I see what V's saying, but some of Cerrone's work veers towards what I describe as the 'flowery' side of disco which isn't IMHO always to the taste of us (& in particular this) old Brit soul boy!

[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by RetroRuss

Personally speaking if one is talking French disco then I would put Le Pamplemousse above Cerrone. From 'Shake Your Boom Boom' to 'Do You Have Any', I think they were original and exciting.

Oops, but Le Pamplemousse ain't French! It's Rinder and Lewis, 2 rather American dudes!

But then again, especially for the Headlamps amongst us:



and believe Cerrone when he states:



looks at RetroRuss and says:



but sometimes you deserve:

[RetroRuss]

Originally Posted by Videoskooter

Oops, but Le Pamplemousse ain't French! It's Rinder and Lewis, 2 rather American dudes!

Really? But I thought only the French could name a band after a pineapple and what with a track called Le Spank anyone could be fooled! It also probably explains why I like them more than Cerrone!! Sorry it is a poor attempt at wit & irony in a dank Friday afternoon in London.

Love your post though - you are the true one Videoskooter!!

[BrunoRepublic]

Originally Posted by RetroRuss

Really? But I thought only the French could name a band after a pineapple...

"Pamplemousse" means "grapefruit".

The cover of the first Le Pamplemousse album leaves no doubt as to what inspired the name. :)

[QUINNY]

Originally Posted by RetroRuss

I used to 'feel' Give Me Love so fortunately I see what V's saying, but some of Cerrone's work veers towards what I describe as the 'flowery' side of disco which isn't IMHO always to the taste of us (& in particular this) old Brit soul boy!

The first 2 minutes are great....then it goes cooingly sugary wit' the vocals.

Love In C Minor was played BITD, even I gave it a few spins, but only for a relatively short while. Infuriatingly, the UK Atlantic 12" release was (from memory) about 3' 40". What a waste of vinyl (on two counts). Perhaps I don't like Cerrone too much because of that, as one of the other 'complete and utter waste of time and effort' 12" from WEA/Atlantic that came out early on was......tah dah! Boney M's Daddy Cool. Old predjudices die hard!
I even put pen to paper and wrote to James Hamilton at Record Mirror concerning the short playing times of too many UK releases and cynical as ever (even when I was much younger) said something to the effect that if record companies were going to persevere with 12" having such short playing times, they were obviously being used as mere marketing tools and of little use to serious DJs and fans alike. He quoted me in an article about the rise of 12" records, that appeared in his Disco column a few weeks later.

See how I might be adverse to Cerrone and have little control over my emotions?

[Dayna]

Originally Posted by RetroRuss

ROFL!!!

I laugh because again it is a simple matter of taste. I recall 'Give Me Love' and 'Supernature' BITD being played in the London clubs but not 'Love in C Minor'.

Personally speaking if one is talking French disco then I would put Le Pamplemousse above Cerrone. From 'Shake Your Boom Boom' to 'Do You Have Any', I think they were original and exciting. French Disco generally I think didn't really appeal to the masses here in the UK, and certainly not at the venues I used to frequent in London c. 1976/77.

I used to 'feel' Give Me Love so fortunately I see what V's saying, but some of Cerrone's work veers towards what I describe as the 'flowery' side of disco which isn't IMHO always to the taste of us (& in particular this) old Brit soul boy!

I Love as you say"The Flowery side of Disco'
Flowery meaning Beautiful IMO..
with heart and love in the message....Sex too.but Thats good as well:icon_biggri n:

[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by QUINNY

the UK Atlantic 12" release was (from memory) about 3' 40"

3'42" to be exact and the B-side "Black is black" clocked in at 3'36". Indeed, that's not what we call a 12", we call that a rip-off! We can argue about the better sound quality of a 12" but I would never have bought that 1 either.

[STEPHEN L FREEMAN]

Originally Posted by UltimateBeeGeesFan

After listening tot Cerrone's grooooooooovy disco music, I have to say that he is one of the best, but here in America unknown/underappreciated disco artists.

I don't know about "underappreciated" here in America. His first 4 releases did exceptionally well.
Too bad he barely wrote any of them...

Okay... Here it comes...

Alain Wisniak wrote the "Cerrone's Paradise" and "Angelina" LPs. He and Lene Lovich wrote the entire "Supernature" and "Je Suis Music" LPs, as well. (She explains the how-and-why on her 1980 interview LP, from Stiff records. As well as, in a couple magazine interviews from the 80's and 90's that you can find online.)

Quite honestly, what you love in French Disco is the work of Don Ray, Jean Claude Petit, Jean VanLoo, etc... They are the unsung Heroes of the genre. At least (Mon Dieu) Alec wrote his material and actually had a strong hand in the arrangements. Look at the credits on the original Atlantic/UK release of LIcM. There's a reason the credits are listed as "Alec / R. Costandinos, Cerrone". That's not a typo. It means Alec wrote the music and Alec & Cerrone wrote the lyric. We all know by now, that Cerrone had little to do with the final product, outside of financing it and playing on it. But that writer's credit gives him Publishing royalties.

Cerrone's writer's credits mean very little. In so much as, (like Pete Waterman and a host of other producers...) his getting Publishing royalties from writer's credits, were part-of-the-deal for anyone writing, or releasing on Malligator & Crocos. (ie: Revelation's "Don't Give A Damn" LP)

If the writer's royalties were already tied-up, he'd slap "A Cerrone Production" on the back of the release. (ie: Revelation's "House of The Rising Sun". Or Leslie O'Hara's "Gypsy Boy" Which was, originally released on Disques IBACH, and produced by Goldera-Algarra-Copperman. Then the LP licensed to Crocos. Where it, suddenly, became a Cerrone production.)


I'll would never discount the beauty of LIcM. It was a turning point in Disco music. (Note: You have to admit that it does sound like early Munich Machine stuff, though. Albeit stripped-down and stretched-out.) But neither will I bow to false Gods. And I'm so tired of Cerrone getting credit for other peoples work.

Okay... My sheild is up... I see the pitchforks and torches heading up the mountain. You can start throwing the spears. But keep in mind that all I've relied on here, are facts.

[discoadam]

Cerrone is the Disco God. That's all that need be said. Every album from the 70's through the oughts has been divine.