Was THIS the grandest "Cerrone" production ???

[remicks]

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Originally Posted by Graham_Start

You're really reaching here. You seem to think that because this is a good album, and Cerrone put his name on good albums, that this must therefore be a Cerrone album as if there was no other talent at the time. This reminds me of the guys who thought that every other new group in the 70s was really The Beatles working under an alias.

Michaële, Paul and Lana Sebastian were already established producers when they created this album. Thor Baldursson was also involved, and he would've had a lot of insight from his work with Giorgio Moroder and Pete Bellotte. They might've borrowed some of the elements of the same style, but there's no need for direct involvement.

The problem with speculation like this is that it doesn't take long before someone accepts it as fact and passes it on (like people who still insist that Amanda Lear is transgendered). Another example is how a few MP3s have been mislabeled and uploaded to file networks, and you end up with people insisting that Real Life's "Send Me An Angel" is a long-lost early Pet Shop Boys track (despite the fact that it doesn't sound like PSB, and was a hit in its own right on three different occasions). If everyone believes something, things get to a point where it ultimately doesn't matter if it's true or not.

I learned long ago Graham that truth is 100% perception .

I'm not saying this is a "good album" .... I'm saying it's a great Cerrone (ish) album. His ( or whoever‘s ) best. Whether he was involved or not .... all I can say is .... one way or the other ... he never sounded better (IMO of course)
And if I’m maligning anyone in my surmising .....heck let Cerrone come here and straighten it out if he's bothered about it. It's not like he's dead . As a matter of fact, I think it's about time some of these folks did show up here at the internet's premier disco website. Spend some time and share some love with those that always have and continue still to appreciate them. As for Amanda Lear …. he should too ….


Until then, I can only conjecture … which is my right ... ....


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[QUINNY]

Originally Posted by Videoskooter

BTW, and off-topic: I'll be in Southampton tomorrow!

What do you guys think: is there a possibility of a meet and greet with El Quinny, now known as the Eurodiscomeister? (Yep, Bernie, we finally DISCOvered the unconvenient truth about the British musicians!) Quinnius, if you see a Red Mercedes Actros with Belgian plates, It's me!!!!!!!

It's a shame that all of our lives are soooo busy, so that even when two of us find ourselves in the same relatively small geographical location a meeting is impossible, but I might have enjoyed meeting a Belgian redneck like you.

Errr, I wouldn't know a Mercedes Actros from a Smart car.
Are you going on a cruise?

[JussiK]

[quote=Graham_Start;117227]
Michaële, Paul and Lana Sebastian were already established producers when they created this album. quote]

Absolutely. Having worked with French national icons such as Sheila and Claude Francois, it would be very odd had the team somehow agreed to put their stamp on a project secretly masterminded by Cerrone. Anyone into French pop ( via yé-yé, chansons, Gainsbourg etc) can instantly make a clear distinction between musical thematics of Jean Marc and the often bittersweet compositions of M, P and L Sebastian.

[BrunoRepublic]

Originally Posted by remicks

I'm not saying this is a "good album" .... I'm saying it's a great Cerrone (ish) album. His ( or whoever‘s ) best. Whether he was involved or not .... all I can say is .... one way or the other ... he never sounded better (IMO of course)

He never sounded better because he was never involved.

Seriously, just what is so Cerrone-esque about this album anyway? The melodies? Not like him at all. The orchestration? Not really, on similar in the sense that they're both in the same genre, much like loud guitars are to be found on every hard rock album. The structure? No on all counts. The ballads on side two are like nothing he's ever done. The first side is a medley, also very much unlike him, as he preferred to stretch a single song out for an entire side back then.

Originally Posted by remicks

And if I’m maligning anyone in my surmising .....heck let Cerrone come here and straighten it out if he's bothered about it.

Wow, I thought you were already being silly, but you just took it to the next level.

[remicks]

Originally Posted by Bernie

Back to the original topic, why do you think Madleen Kane's album has a Cerrone sound? My records are not with me now so I can't listen, but from what I recall I just can't make the connection. Maybe more Don Ray than Cerrone, possibly.

Ya ....Don Ray , Costandinos...Cerrone .....that whole crowd..... (they are all one and the same anyway ... right? )

Here's a small piece of FORBIDDEN LOVE :


http://www.amazon.com/Club-Floor-Cla.../dp/B00000DD2X

cut #8


Check out the french horns about 3/4 thru ...........which I don't think Cerrone ever used? ....but then ... this is "Cerrone" at his grandest (IMO )





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[Videoskooter]

Originally Posted by QUINNY

I wouldn't know a Mercedes Actros from a Smart car. Are you going on a cruise?

Err, an Actros is a truck

This is 1 of my trucks so you can watch out for it the next time!



BTW, peek-a-boo:





Remmy, I listened to the Kane album and really, like Graham states: it's a complete different sound. But I did a search and there's indeed a connection: both artists drove Rolls Royce and guess what: they tanked at the same gas station in Paris. A big thanks to Pierre La Baguette who is now 76 years old and worked for 30 years at that garage. He remembers both of them like it was only yesterday!

Merci Pierre!!!!

BTW, I met Cerrone yesterday and this was his reaction after reading your post! (But me still loves ya Remmy!)

[Pat]

Love in C Minor and Cerrone's Paradise were the best Cerrone productions imo (followed by Supernature) I have all of his vinyls and apart from Cerrone 4 'look for love' and 'music of life' and Cerrone 7 featuring Jocelyn Brown (all cuts) I never felt the goosebumps as I did in 76-77 when listening to his music, but I kept checking his career and have collected his 'vinyl output' over the decades.

A grand producer he was but I have still a few doubts on the 'originality' and credit of some of his best work???!!

ps: his Cerrone XVII Hysteria (2002-3) is his best album after his great 76-79 period!!!

Amen to disco,
Pat

[Videoskooter]

He'll be releasing a new album very soon. I wonder which direction it will take. recycling his own grooves, similar Disco or something more electro????

I also like the Brigade Mondaine soundtracks but I've never read on this board that somebody liked "The Collector"

http://www.discomusic.com/cds-more/4730_0_3_0_C/

[Thereza bizarre]

I hope he does an electro tune, hey mr scooter your truck might possibly run away with itself for a "cruise" and run over quimmy hahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!
quinny does that program car booty i think lol...............
cerrone looked real good in the photo.......

[Pat]

Ah The Collector,

well, I actually like the 2nd version and live version of this Rock/Pop Opera
The collector had been released as a single accompanied by an anime clip which now looks very dated. The original story/lyrics was co-written by New Wave/punk star Lene Lovich with whom Cerrone had worked on Supernature and some his subsequent work.

The single as well as the album with this concept as a 3 track A-side was released 85-86 on Carrere records. A couple of years later Cerrone reworked the concept to a full album adding some extra synths and keyboards, this new version became the live show at the Eiffel Tower and from that moment on Cerrone organized many big events in open air and kept his name in the media.

As I mentioned at the start of my message I never really cared for the 'thin sounding' first version but the 88 album was actually good.

Brigade Mondaine, La Secte of Marrakech and Vaudou au Caraibes are patchy but the first 2 soundtracks do have some interesting tracks and of course some sampling of his own stuff or using some of his older material with another title. Typically of Cerrone. Easy money, I suppose.

Pat
feelmysoul

[The Boogie Doctor]

in my opinion, cerrone's greatest production was 'look for love' off the golden touch lp. its stunning!

[totouk]

Originally Posted by The Boogie Doctor

in my opinion, cerrone's greatest production was 'look for love' off the golden touch lp. its stunning!

It's also my favourite Cerrone track. The strings are just incredible on it. I've also loved Love Is The Answer from the Supernature album which no-one ever seems to refer to.

toto

[Videoskooter]

"Supernature" is an excellent album but the problem is that Remicks started a Madleen Kane topic in which he dragged Cerrone (for no obvious reason) and that this is not really a discussion on good/bad stuff by the French Discomeister

Remicks seems to be vanished now after this hit and miss

Rumours are that he's now concepting a new thread on the connection between Rob Zombie and Baccara.

[remicks]

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Originally Posted by Graham_Start

Wow, I thought you were already being silly, but you just took it to the next level.

Would that be "silly" on the same level as worrying about people mistaking REAL LIFE for THE PET SHOP BOYS ??? !!!!

Anyway , Videoskooter renewed my interest in this thread and this LP and now what I find even more perplexing than Cerrone's name being no where to be found on this "Cerrone" project .... is the fact that Madleen Kane's name is !!!!

I'm listening to the FORBIDDEN LOVE side and can't find her anywhere !!!! All I hear are a bunch of Cerronish - styled singers harmonizing ............ in typical "Cerrone " fashion ..... as rather one would expect instead on a .... yes ... that's right ..... on a Cerrone LP

You suppose Cerrone ... or someone emulating him , locked Madleen in the women's room and then rushed in the " 'Cerrone' Singers" to sing her parts ??????




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[QUINNY]

Remicks: I think you've just taken over the crown of THE MOST INFURIATING PERSON IN THE WORLD!!!!

Are ya doin' drugs, high on spirit, not thinking clearly at 6 hours past your bedtime or what???