Cerrone - Revelacion

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Old April 14th, 2008, 10:46 AM
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But I will just ask, what are your credentials? Are you just a huge fan of Disco like myself, or are/were you more involved in the industry?
They're here:
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here:
http://www.discomusic.com/forums/mem...l-freeman.html

and here:
Stephen L. Freeman - DiscoMusic.com

I do understand your suspicions as to what's true, and what's not. There's so much mis-information, on the internet. Especially, when the facts are so deeply buried. Or just not available.

It's VERY frustrating for guys like me, and some of the Senior Members of the site, when a newcomer wants to know the details, or what it was really like, etc... Because we have to bounce around de-bunking all the rumour crap that clogs the threads. And, as I think the old saying goes, "If enough people say it, it must be true." Right now, there's a new member of the site who's posting piles and piles of gross mis-information. <sigh> (the poor schmo' can't even spell "vinyl" correctly) It's hard not to look like the Disco Police, but I get sooo pissed-off when I read garbage from overactive imaginations, or fuzzy, vodka-laced, drug-daze memories posted as fact, with nothing concrete to back them up.

As you wander through the site you'll see who has their knowledge intact. Some in very distinct areas of the genre, and some on a more general level. Posts from people like Jussik, Videoscooter, GrahamStuart, Dayna, SandraDee, dancer5612004, Markydefad and yes...dare I say 'QUINNY', ;o) will be based upon, or followed-up by, factual knowledge and/or truelife experience.

They may be DRIPPING in personal opinion and sarcasm! (LOL!) But they WILL be accurate, in their facts!
There's a lot to learn, here. Even I (GASP!) have learned things I didn't know. And have had my personal recollections jostled back, closer to the truth. And I was crowned "The Disco Queen Mum" back at Hot Tracks (A title that I never expected to "stick" on a global level. But, <sigh> it did.), but I'm not infallible.

So, read between the lines and put your own google search to work, to find the answers, if you doubt what you're reading.
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Old April 14th, 2008, 01:38 PM
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Hi, I just received my copy from Germany and the first reply was correct. It is "House of the Rising Sun" (LP) by Revelacion, not Tevelacion. Regardless, the Bob Sinclair/ Cerrone song "Revelacion" is actually an edited down version of this 16 minutes 10 seconds track, minus the vocal, which is exactly what I was looking for. A Cerrone production, arrangements by Don Ray. I still haven't heard Santa Esmeralda's version. I will look for it. I imagine it is very similar to this (this is VERY "don't let me be misunderstood"). Maybe it's even exactly the same! I picked this copy up for $12 including shipping from Germany on GEMM. I think I saw a couple of other copies on there, highly recommended.
According to Gemm.com their also is a 16 minute 10 second track of "House of the rising sun" on crocos records that is a Cerrone Production. Question, does Cerrone have a 16:10 minute long version? If not, how long is Cerrones edited version? I heard Cerrones version "Revelacion" it's the best out of all of them in my view. That guitar/string solo is amazing. I found a 2:59 version of Cerrones "Revelacion" but it's way shorter then the Cerrone version i heard, can someone help me please?
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Old April 14th, 2008, 02:16 PM
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They're here:
DiscoMusic.com

here:
http://www.discomusic.com/forums/mem...l-freeman.html

and here:
Stephen L. Freeman - DiscoMusic.com

I do understand your suspicions as to what's true, and what's not. There's so much mis-information, on the internet. Especially, when the facts are so deeply buried. Or just not available.

It's VERY frustrating for guys like me, and some of the Senior Members of the site, when a newcomer wants to know the details, or what it was really like, etc... Because we have to bounce around de-bunking all the rumour crap that clogs the threads. And, as I think the old saying goes, "If enough people say it, it must be true." Right now, there's a new member of the site who's posting piles and piles of gross mis-information. <sigh> (the poor schmo' can't even spell "vinyl" correctly) It's hard not to look like the Disco Police, but I get sooo pissed-off when I read garbage from overactive imaginations, or fuzzy, vodka-laced, drug-daze memories posted as fact, with nothing concrete to back them up.

As you wander through the site you'll see who has their knowledge intact. Some in very distinct areas of the genre, and some on a more general level. Posts from people like Jussik, Videoscooter, GrahamStuart, Dayna, SandraDee, dancer5612004, Markydefad and yes...dare I say 'QUINNY', ;o) will be based upon, or followed-up by, factual knowledge and/or truelife experience.

They may be DRIPPING in personal opinion and sarcasm! (LOL!) But they WILL be accurate, in their facts!
There's a lot to learn, here. Even I (GASP!) have learned things I didn't know. And have had my personal recollections jostled back, closer to the truth. And I was crowned "The Disco Queen Mum" back at Hot Tracks (A title that I never expected to "stick" on a global level. But, <sigh> it did.), but I'm not infallible.

So, read between the lines and put your own google search to work, to find the answers, if you doubt what you're reading.
I am impressed sir was unaware of your credentials. I apologize. I was wondering can you assit me with this Revelacion info? http://www.discomusic.com/forums/dis...elacion-2.html Thanks.
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Old April 14th, 2008, 02:29 PM
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I am impressed sir was unaware of your credentials. I apologize. I was wondering can you assit me with this Revelacion info? http://www.discomusic.com/forums/dis...elacion-2.html Thanks.
Nevermind got it Revelacion - The House Of The Rising Sun but is it true you were DJing at 16? Did i misunderstand, i read where you manage at a Law firm, so i am assuming your an attorney as well?

Whats the latest with Club Classics weekly broadcast, "Back To Music" and where can i listen to it?
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Old April 14th, 2008, 03:54 PM
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Nevermind got it Revelacion - The House Of The Rising Sun but is it true you were DJing at 16? Did i misunderstand, i read where you manage at a Law firm, so i am assuming your an attorney as well?
I'm glad you found the Revelation version. It's really done well! I'd put it up there with Konga's version of "Gimme Some Lovin'", also on Crocos Records.

Although I'd worked summers as a bar-back, at my brother-in-law's bar in Newark NJ, since I was 14 and had been getting into Discos from the age of 15-16, I actually started DJing at 17. The owners thought I was 19.
(see post #14 here: http://www.discomusic.com/forums/gen...tml#post136372 )

And I'm not a Lawyer. I'm the sole Case Manager at one of the most highly regarded Employment Discrimination and Civil Rights Firms in Florida. As well as the US, in general. I oversee and coordinate the daily goings-on for about 300 Cases. I retired from DJing in '97 for a couple reasons. The most compelling being my need to be a 24/7 caretaker for my partner. When he passed, I didn't feel up to playing music, so I got the job, where I'm at now. But I still have a hand in (remixing, producing, etc...), at least one release a year. Just to keep my name, and 'Dis Oui Musique' out there. I'll (hopefully) be Producing another song I wrote and arranged, for release this summer, by Ernest Kohl.

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Whats the latest with Club Classics weekly broadcast, "Back To Music" and where can i listen to it?
Originally it was to be on Sirius. But we had problems...
Then, the whole project got put on-hold, while I was focusing on last March's sports competition.

I'm gearing back up for the show, and it looks like (for now) it'll end-up being on Live365 Internet Radio - Thousands of Free Online Radio Stations

It's geared towards the club tracks and away from the radio & chart stuff. So former club-dwellers, like myself, can listen to a show without hearing the same songs for a period of a couple months. Play it once, catalogue it and shelve it. It'll also run heavy on imported and Promo-only mixes. And I'm editing, almost every track, to get rid of the mixing elements (long intros, x-long breaks, long mix-outs, etc...) so you get to hear the club versions, without sitting through 96 to 128 mixing beats at the beginning and end of every song. And every song has a story behind it, so I'll be sharing all the inside bits of info I'd been privvy to, over the years.

There's 1000's of dance tracks that never got to the radio. That's what "Back To Music" (name inspired by the original CBS import intro of Theo Vaness' 1st LP) is going to focus on..

"This is the year 2501. Our world is no longer a place where you can dream of the future. Only of the past.
We use our time-machine, now and then, to go back to nature. Back to music..."
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Old April 15th, 2008, 01:41 AM
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I'm glad you found the Revelation version. It's really done well! I'd put it up there with Konga's version of "Gimme Some Lovin'", also on Crocos Records.
I have that Kongas LP great stuff indeed!

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Although I'd worked summers as a bar-back, at my brother-in-law's bar in Newark NJ, since I was 14 and had been getting into Discos from the age of 15-16, I actually started DJing at 17. The owners thought I was 19.
(see post #14 here: http://www.discomusic.com/forums/gen...tml#post136372 )
Great post you a good story teller, believe your a 1959 baby as myself i think all of us have some interesting storys.

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I'm gearing back up for the show, and it looks like (for now) it'll end-up being on Live365 Internet Radio - Thousands of Free Online Radio Stations
I listen to Live365 religously specifically Disco935 New York with "VJC" it's the only station i can find that plays mixes from featured pro's like the great Bobby Viteritti, Lary Sanders etc. Its great stuff!


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There's 1000's of dance tracks that never got to the radio. That's what "Back To Music" (name inspired by the original CBS import intro of Theo Vaness' 1st LP) is going to focus on..
Back to Music LP i have to one of my favorites. Do you accept Private Messages?
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