Discussion on When Exactly Did Disco Die and When Was the Beginning of the End? within the Disco Music of the 70s and 80s forums, part of the General Music Discussions at DiscoMusic.com category; Originally Posted by DiscoDiva Did you read my post? DD yes, DiscoDiva, and you said it very well. I've been ...
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October 14th, 2006, 11:06 PM
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I've been saying this things around here for years but still you'll find people blaming the demise of Disco, especially the Disco Suck campaign on homophobia. Also many think that the Best Disco years came after SNF (1978) , when in fact SNF was the beginning of the end and changed Disco not for the better,(with some exceptions) a fact that was very clear to old-timers at the time especially as we watched the masses marching into club land :cry: and destroying what was left of the 'underground' Disco scene. Last edited by Mixmachine; October 14th, 2006 at 11:31 PM.  |
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October 15th, 2006, 12:12 PM
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They took a lot of food out of people's mouths, and money out of people's pockets; I just hope that before they turn to dust, they will truly know how all of us "discoers" felt back then. I can't help it, I just hate Steve Dahl, not hate the person, but what he did. Looking at what he looked like then, and now, tells me that him being a radio personality is the only thing that got him laid, and got him married. Cheap shot I know, but please allow me to vent; I really haven't vented yet until now. I'll leave it alone. Allow just this one vent "discomusic.com senior powers that be" within this forum, cause I didn't know WHO was behind the Comiskey Park thing until I joined this forum. I cared, but let by gones be by gones. It's over, I've vented at Steve Dahl through this forum; he'll never read it, but at least I've vented. :evil: Garry
__________________ KEEP DANCIN Y'ALL! REMEMBER, DISCO IS STILL ALIVE, IT HAS DROPPED IT'S NAME AND CHANGED IT'S FACE OVER THE YEARS TO FIT EACH GENERATION AND TIME, BUT THE MISSION REMAINS THE SAME; TO KEEP EM DANCIN! BE SURE TO CHECK OUT MY ARTIST PAGE AT: http://www.garrybcoston.us http://WWW.FRESHSTARTREFERRAL.COM CLICK ON THE ABOVE URL AND DONATE TO THE HOMELESS AND NEEDY! THANK YOU. Garry |
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October 15th, 2006, 12:16 PM
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Garry
__________________ KEEP DANCIN Y'ALL! REMEMBER, DISCO IS STILL ALIVE, IT HAS DROPPED IT'S NAME AND CHANGED IT'S FACE OVER THE YEARS TO FIT EACH GENERATION AND TIME, BUT THE MISSION REMAINS THE SAME; TO KEEP EM DANCIN! BE SURE TO CHECK OUT MY ARTIST PAGE AT: http://www.garrybcoston.us http://WWW.FRESHSTARTREFERRAL.COM CLICK ON THE ABOVE URL AND DONATE TO THE HOMELESS AND NEEDY! THANK YOU. Garry |
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October 16th, 2006, 08:01 PM
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| Re: When Exactly Did Disco Die and When Was the Beginning of the End? Here is a guy called "Disco Savvy's" chronicle of Disco's birth up until now. I disagree with a lot of his dates and times, but it's worth reviewing. Disco Savvy A chronicle of disco music from 1972 to the present This website, founded at the dawn of the new millennium on January 1, 2001, is a centralized repository of disco information, highlighting the best disco music from the 1970s through today and offering the largest and most chronologically complete year-by-year lists ever compiled of disco songs. The Year-by-Year Lists Here you will find extensive lists of disco songs, divided by year, supplemented by chart positions and other details (such as whether the song is a remake). The lists encompass disco sung in many languages -- including English, Dutch, German, Swedish, French, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, Polish, Russian, Latvian, Greek, Turkish, Japanese, Swahili, Tahitian, Georgian, Hebrew, Hindi, and Hungarian. Over 5700 songs in all! You'll also find details on past disco events, disco-oriented products, and more. 1972-1974 Disco - the first years 1975 Disco - do the hustle! 1976 Disco - disco gets more radio hits 1977 Disco - summer heatwave in New York City 1978 Disco - disco explodes into the mainstream 1979 Disco - disco's peak year 1980 Disco - disco's last big year on the American charts 1981 Disco - disco is still alive but declining 1982-1989 Disco - the last days of classic disco 1990s Disco - examples of the disco revival 2000-2003 Disco - disco thrives in the early 2000s 2004-2006 Disco - disco continues to prosper today Notable Disco Songs and Artists Like with any musical genre, disco has its share of treasures and its share of junk. So which ones are worth your time to seek out and listen to? Here are some disco songs and disco artists that have stood the test of time, performed and produced by superb singers, musicians, and producers. The Best Disco Songs of All Time Brothers Johnson: Light Up the Night, Winners Chic: Chic, C'est Chic, Risqué The Company: The Company Delegation: Eau de Vie George Benson: Give Me the Night, Compilation Jamiroquai: Traveling without Moving, Synkronized, A Funk Odyssey Norma Jean Wright: Norma Jean Shalamar: Disco Gardens, Big Fun, Three for Love, Friends Sheila and B. Devotion: Singin' in the Rain, King of the World Sister Sledge: We are Family, Love Somebody Today, All-American Girls Sophie Ellis-Bextor: Read My Lips Stephanie Mills: What Cha Gonna Do With My Lovin', Sweet Sensation, Stephanie Ultra Nate: Situation: Critical, Stranger Than Fiction Other notable artists: Barry White • Candi Staton • Charanga 76 • Cheryl Lynn • Constellation Orchestra • Diana Ross • Donna Summer • Eddie Drennon • Fantasy • First Choice • France Joli • Frankie Valli • Jocelyn Brown • Laura Taylor • Michael Jackson • Phyllis Hyman • The Players Association • Rainbow Team • S.O.S. Band • The Salsoul Orchestra • Teena Marie • Thelma Houston • Voyage Essays Have you ever heard statements like "All disco sounds the same" and "Disco is just meaningless party music"? These essays demonstrate the falseness of these sentiments, and will help you explore the full richness of disco. Disco Message Songs A Diversity of Sounds in Disco Music The following Year in Review features detail what happened in the disco world in recent years. Disco 2003: The Year in Review Disco 2004: The Year in Review Disco 2005: The Year in Review Further Reading Disco Bibliography: Books True disco is not synthetic The positive aspects of disco music are often unfairly overlooked, especially since the best disco songs are not known to most people or have been forgotten or miscategorized. First, unlike most other forms of dance music, disco performers generally use real acoustical instruments, including brass (saxophone, trumpet, etc.), strings, rhythm guitar, drums, and piano. There were even several disco orchestras like M.F.S.B., Salsoul Orchestra, Biddu Orchestra, John Davis and the Monster Orchestra, The Armada Orchestra, The Mike Theodore Orchestra, THP Orchestra, The Wonderland Disco Band, Meco Orchestra, Richard Hewson Orchestra, Montana Orchestra, and Barry White's Love Unlimited Orchestra. Some notable examples of orchestrated disco are M.F.S.B.'s "TLC (Tender Lovin' Care)" and "T.S.O.P.", David Shire's "Manhattan Skyline", Salsoul Orchestra's "Magic Bird of Fire" and "Runaway", and the Armada Orchestra's "Band of Gold", among many others. Occasionally, other disco bands used organ synthesizers instead of real violins, but this was still far better than the excessively electronic dance and rock music of the 1980s. Not all disco sounds the same Furthermore, disco music is generally uplifting and inspiring, providing a much-needed contrast to the dull and angry racket of many hard rock, heavy metal, alternative rock, techno, and rap songs. With its driving beats, grooving basslines, funky horns, and harmonious strings, disco conveys feeling and energy better than many other genres. ...and provides a diverse range of sounds: Disco is primarily influenced by soul and funk music, but can also utilize elements from jazz, blues, calypso, soca, sca, classical, Latino, and rock music. Effective instrumentation combined with effortful singing had stellar results, as demonstrated by the timeless disco songs by Sister Sledge, Michael Jackson, Gloria Gaynor, George Benson, Phyllis Hyman, Donna Summer, and others. Disco music, when made properly, can be fun, classy, innovative, and exciting. Not just party music It's true that up-tempo disco music is perfect for any celebration. But, more than mere party music, disco can have deep, meaningful lyrics and can be listened to anywhere, anytime. Quality disco is great for, among other things, relaxing, dancing, exercising, driving, or rollerskating. An abundance of talent Some disco artists and groups have frequently performed live in concert, including Chic, Donna Summer, Diana Ross, Sister Sledge, Earth Wind and Fire, Shalamar, Black Ivory, Tavares, K.C. and the Sunshine Band, Musique, Pattie Brooks, Sylvester, Barry White, Jamiroquai, Odyssey, Rose Royce, Hot Chocolate, GQ, McFadden and Whitehead, France Joli, Candi Staton, Viola Wills, Carol Williams, and Evelyn "Champagne" King. Versatile 1970s disco artists who have had considerable career longevity well into the 1980s (and in some cases 1990s and 2000s) include Gloria Gaynor, Cissy Houston, Donna Summer, Cheryl Lynn, Loleatta Holloway, Martha Wash, Barbara Pennington, Miquel Brown, Barry White, Shalamar, Jody Watley (of Shalamar), Jean Shy, Sarah Brightman, and Kool and the Gang. However, the majority of disco artists were solely studio singers, and when disco was made carelessly by producers and companies that were more interested in making money than making quality music, the results were mindless repetition, boring lyrics, and headache-inducing instrumentation. And radio stations in the 1970s tended to play too many inferior disco songs. A listener would be barraged by "Ring My Bell", "YMCA", "Macho Man", "Disco Duck", "Knock on Wood", "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy", "Get Dancin'", "Funkytown", "If There's Love", and other mindless and unharmonious mass-produced trash in between the gems. And as disco phased into over-synthesized pop, HI-NRG, house, and other forms of music, the emotion, art, and style that typified the best acts of disco was lost. Electronic keyboards and synthesizers have their place but they were used to an excess in the 1980s. Often, keyboards and synths are good as supplements to real instruments, but not as replacements. One by one each real instrument was replaced; first the violins went, then the bass guitar and trumpet, and finally the guitar. Fortunately, the original disco sound came back in a big way beginning in the 1990s, spawning hundreds of new disco recordings by such artists as the Brand New Heavies, Jamiroquai, and BsB Disco Club. The best disco concert footage: The Best Disco in Town - this 2-disc DVD showcases live performances by disco artists from 2003, including Chic with "Good Times", "Le Freak", "We Are Family", "I'm Coming Out", "He's the Greatest Dancer", "I Want Your Love", "Dance Dance Dance", Shalamar with "I Can Make You Feel Good", "There It Is", and "A Night to Remember", Rose Royce with "Car Wash" and "Wishing on a Star", Tavares with "More Than A Woman" and "Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel", The Real Thing with "Can You Feel the Force?" and "You to Me are Everything", Kid Creole and the Coconuts, and Alexander O'Neal. Only viewable in PAL format in Europe, Japan, South Africa, and the Middle East (Region 2 encoding). Chic - Live at Montreux 2004 - features the legendary band Chic performing such hits as "Everybody Dance", "Good Times", and "I Want Your Love". Only viewable in NTSC format in North America (Region 1 encoding). The best disco compilations: Superstars of Seventies Soul - this 3-CD package includes "Good Times", "Take Your Time (Do It Right)", "You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine", "The Love I Lost", "What a Diff'rence a Day Makes", and other disco favorites, plus stellar soul classics like Teddy Pendergrass's "Close the Door" and the Chi-Lites' "Have You Seen Her", and funk greats like "I'm Every Woman" by Chaka Khan and "Give It To Me Baby" by Rick James. Other featured artists include Sister Sledge, the Spinners, A Taste of Honey, Eddie Kendricks, Marvin Gaye, and the Commodores. Disco Classics: The Greatest Disco Anthems - includes "Stomp!", "I Love America", "Relight My Fire", "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" by Inner Life, "Runaway", "Dr. Love", and more The Disco Years, Volume 4: Lost in Music - includes "Good Times", "Spacer", "High Society", "He's the Greatest Dancer", and more Boogie Nights: Classic Disco Anthems - includes "We Got the Funk", "Can't Fake the Feeling", "Act Like You Know", "Good Times", "I Hear Music in the Streets", and more Hold Up - includes "All American Girls", "I'm Here Again", "Make That Move", "Love is You", the rare soul classic "Looking Up to You", and more Disco Spectrum, Volume 1 - includes "Let Me Down Easy", "I Don't Want You Back", "Take Some Time Out (For Love)", and more The Greatest 80's Soul Weekender - includes "Check Out the Groove", "Searching", "Can You Handle It", "And the Beat Goes On", "Jump to the Beat", "Ladies Night", and more 80's Groove Sessions - includes "There But for the Grace of God Go I", "I Can Make You Feel Good", "I Knew That Love", "Never Too Much", "Check Out the Groove", and more Disco Sessions - includes "I Really Love You", "Act Like You Know", "Let's Get Together", "K-Jee", and more Disco Connection Volume 2: Authentic Classic Disco 1974-1981 - includes "Everybody Dance", "He's the Greatest Dancer", "Everybody Loves a Good Thing", "Hi-Jack", the original "Bourgie Bourgie" instrumental, and more Kenny Dope Presents Roller Boogie 80's - includes "I Hear Music in the Streets", "Just a Touch of Love", "Rock Your World", "I Like What You're Doin' to Me", the garage classics "Funky Sensation" and "Heartbeat", the funk hit "Watching You", and more Bobby and Steve: Past, Present and Future - The Anniversary Collection 1984-2004 - includes "Saturday Night, Sunday Morning", "You Know How to Love Me", "The Boss", the disco-house tracks "Deeper in Love", "Welcome to the Real World", "This Means That", "Breathe", and "Like a Butterfly (You Send Me)", and more Kings of Disco - includes "I'm in Love", "Skate Dancer", "It Looks Like Love", a reggae-flavored cover of "I'm Caught Up", and more Spirit of Disco - includes "Come to Me", "There But for the Grace of God Go I", "Right in the Socket", "You Are, You Are", "Dance With You", and more The Disco Box - includes "It Only Takes a Minute", "Young Hearts Run Free", "I Want Your Love", "I Shoulda Loved Ya", "I Like What You're Doin' to Me", and more Disco movies and documentaries: Roller Boogie starring Linda Blair (1979, DVD format) Disco: Spinning the Story with Gloria Gaynor (2005, DVD format) Super disco singles: Cocomotion by El Coco Come to Me by France Joli Gonna Get Over You by France Joli Murder on the Dancefloor by Sophie Ellis-Bextor New Kind of Medicine by Ultra Nate Cosmic Girl by Jamiroquai Canned Heat by Jamiroquai Love Foolosophy by Jamiroquai Recommended links: Other disco and music research sites: Another site that agrees with our premise that disco is still a contemporary genre, and which also has very good recommendations of classic disco, is DiscoStyle.com, so it's the top pick. Also excellent are DiscoMusic.com with its super databases and forums and Disco Museum with its extensive label discographies and artist tributes. Ed Dolista, who hosts the Australian radio show "Disco Fever", has a good site called Disco Fever. If you're interested in 1970s music in general, you will want to visit The Lost 45s with Barry Scott and Return to the '70s with Scott Cutty. Disc jockey services: Are you holding a party or special event and need a quality DJ to spin the best disco, funk, and electro-dance tunes? Check out Fastrax Entertainment and Mobile DJ Service, based in Long Beach, California, USA! Vintage clothing: Miami Beach Vintage Clothing and Fashion has an ever-changing selection of 1970s clothing including disco dresses, polyester shirts, jackets, and more. Record services: Need to restore your records? Why not transfer them to CDs using Magic Sound Restoration! Disco on the radio: To listen to some fine disco music on licensed streams and radio programs, the places to be are DJ Lee's DiscoInternet.com, World Disco Radio Community (Radio WDRC), The Disco Heat, and WAPS Radio Disco Action. If you like disco AND soul/funk/jazz, you'll also want to hear KXGQ Oakland (92-GQ), Catch the Groove, Back to the Old School, The Soul Spectrum, 105Classics, Diva Radio (Funk Music Paradise), and Solar Radio.
__________________ KEEP DANCIN Y'ALL! REMEMBER, DISCO IS STILL ALIVE, IT HAS DROPPED IT'S NAME AND CHANGED IT'S FACE OVER THE YEARS TO FIT EACH GENERATION AND TIME, BUT THE MISSION REMAINS THE SAME; TO KEEP EM DANCIN! BE SURE TO CHECK OUT MY ARTIST PAGE AT: http://www.garrybcoston.us http://WWW.FRESHSTARTREFERRAL.COM CLICK ON THE ABOVE URL AND DONATE TO THE HOMELESS AND NEEDY! THANK YOU. Garry |
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October 16th, 2006, 09:54 PM
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| Re: When Exactly Did Disco Die and When Was the Beginning of the End? I did DiscoDiva and I agree completely. I started in '69; remember 1970 as the end of Hippydom. I remember '71 as the beginning of the changes in music and clubbing that developed into Disco. IMO the best days were the early days - '75 to '77 into early '78. SNF and the notoriety of Studio 54 ruined the innocence of Disco. Ohhh - the memories. I recently had a chance to relive my youth and didn't want the evening to end. It was New Year's Eve 2004 in my hometown in Massachusetts. The three Tavares Brothers who still sing; Butch, Chubby and Pooch and a very young DJ who really knew his shit were the evening's entertainment. My wife and I had seats at Number 1 table; Butch Tavares sang "More Than A Woman" to her and I thought I had died and gone to heaven.  I don't think anything like that evening will ever happen again... |
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October 17th, 2006, 12:04 AM
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I suspect the "best " disco years are those that were the best as experienced by each person as they experienced them . Chances are .... a person that was clubbing from 1975 would be getting a bit burned out by '78. But there was much great disco yet to come for those still arriving. I bet 1979 was a great disco year for someone just turning club age then . ***** I'm also curious Garry , about what disco albums come to mind that were created just for art's forms sake ????  *****
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October 17th, 2006, 01:34 AM
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__________________ KEEP DANCIN Y'ALL! REMEMBER, DISCO IS STILL ALIVE, IT HAS DROPPED IT'S NAME AND CHANGED IT'S FACE OVER THE YEARS TO FIT EACH GENERATION AND TIME, BUT THE MISSION REMAINS THE SAME; TO KEEP EM DANCIN! BE SURE TO CHECK OUT MY ARTIST PAGE AT: http://www.garrybcoston.us http://WWW.FRESHSTARTREFERRAL.COM CLICK ON THE ABOVE URL AND DONATE TO THE HOMELESS AND NEEDY! THANK YOU. Garry |
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October 17th, 2006, 02:17 AM
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October 17th, 2006, 10:47 AM
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I guess it's like when you're starting a company, you have a great idea and people buy into your idea and your product, and your company is getting better and better, sales increase, you pay more attention to detail with the product and the quality, and you're really into what the company is all about. Later your company explodes, gets extremely successful, and you're making billions of dollars; you become a huge conglomerate. Soon, if you're not careful, you begin to lose sight of the focus, vision and goals of the company, your quality begins to falter, your customer service declines, and this results in a marked decrease in your reputation and how others view you; in fact, you begin to lose money as a result. Though your company's production and quality has slipped, you press on hoping that people will still buy your product. But sales continue to plummet and eventually you lose all that you had gained and your company becomes bankrupt. To add insult to injury, you find out that your primary and foremost competitor has cashed in on your demise and the majority of your previous customer base has jumped ship and are now buying from them. You declare bankruptcy and close your doors and the company is no more. I think the above scenario is PART of what happened to Disco. Disco hummed right along, people began to love the product, Disco never really wasn't aware of how popular it was or how popular it would become until fame and fortune was suddenly at its door step. Then everyone felt they needed to jump on the bandwagon because there was immense dollar$$ and profit coming out of this new "Queen of the music biz." But one thing I've found out about success is this: You never anticipate adverse possibilities until they are at your doorstep," similar to how "fame and fortune" showed up on disco's doorstep. Everyone really thought that the music was forever (and it has been, just changed its name, slightly changed its look and sound and went more underground). But Disco as we knew it died a cruel death, and not at the singular hand of Comiskey, but as someone else said, by several events and circumstances. There were great songs before SNF, and great songs after SNF, probably not as many super disco records after SNF. I'm not saying the disco after SNF was terrible, disgusting, or all of it of poor quality, I am saying, in my opinion, that the quality of disco slipped dramatically at a certain point and time during disco's peak as a result of the tremendous appeal and success that disco had obtained. You remember, everything was breathing and living disco; the music biz got to the point where rockers were bailing out and jumping over to disco; radio stations changed their formats; disco was THE MUSIC at its peak, no other genre could compare. Then SNF came along and this further accentuated and testified to the strength and power of Disco. This tremendous rise to success, in my opinion was primarily due to billions and trillions of dollars being made because of disco; everyone loved the music, was dancing to it, and buying it (Disco). But as Disco Diva or someone else stated, as a result of over innudation and "over glut" of the music industry (commercialism) the overall quality and appeal slipped dramatically. Record sales began to tumble but that didn't kill disco. There were some quality records still produced even after SNF. But I'm sure you'll agree that around the time or maybe shortly after SNF, some really silly, rediculous, and "no meaning" disco records came out. Many producers you had never heard of, and others, were producing disco albums on a whim hoping to cash in on Disco's success. It wasn't a matter of post SNF disco music being so much more terrible. In my opinion disco still reigned after SNF though sales had slipped; but the quality of disco music, the attention to detail, the careful production and orderliness of ensuring that a quality product was created and produced, began to seriously whane and dimnish. This was only a part of the weakening and eventual death of disco. The Comiskey Park debacle didn't help either, it hurt disco to the point, disco as we knew it (pre tech disco), in which Disco would never recover. I remember buying some great records in extreme late 1978 and throughout 1979. At the time the Comiskey Park thing really didn't sink in with me; I thought disco would always be around, the disco I knew and loved. When "enough is enough" came out, which in my opinion was a great record, I thought, "how could disco be dying like their saying?" But that record, as I would later find, would be Disco on its death bed gasping for air. There was a difference between pre-SNF and post-SNF disco. Yes great records were still being produced, but the overall quality of disco music, and the image portrayed throughout the industry and populous changed for the worse. When you're ascending to fame and fortune, you most times never think about what I call "the fix it factor" in case problems arise or your ship begins to sink. I think this is part of what happened to disco. But it's still here! Name changed, structure changed, but people are still dancing. :p
__________________ KEEP DANCIN Y'ALL! REMEMBER, DISCO IS STILL ALIVE, IT HAS DROPPED IT'S NAME AND CHANGED IT'S FACE OVER THE YEARS TO FIT EACH GENERATION AND TIME, BUT THE MISSION REMAINS THE SAME; TO KEEP EM DANCIN! BE SURE TO CHECK OUT MY ARTIST PAGE AT: http://www.garrybcoston.us http://WWW.FRESHSTARTREFERRAL.COM CLICK ON THE ABOVE URL AND DONATE TO THE HOMELESS AND NEEDY! THANK YOU. Garry Last edited by garrybcoston; October 17th, 2006 at 11:06 AM. |
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October 17th, 2006, 12:08 PM
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I guess where we disagree ... if we are disagreeing .... is in the conclusion that disco therefore is not as good after SNF. It was after this remember that Billboard expanded its chart to 80 songs with no problem in filling it with great songs ( each and every one on there I'm sure someone will defend as "great " ) .....including later songs like ROMEO AND JULIET which some might think of as more artsy disco ..... or music by Midney .... I think amongst the differences you are pointing out is that later on there was a more massive choice of disco ....and the buyer was both overwelmed and suspicious because sorting through all that and finding the "good stuff" ( which I think was just as much still there ....but now more folded into this bigger disco pie) ... was more challenging and risky ( & too expensive to sample it all in the said pursuit of ) It was so much less complcated in the early years (and more fun) when the DJ's had to aggressively seek out the music to play in their clubs. Maybe that is part of your point ?? By 1978 it was being dumped into their laps in quanities too large to consume and while a good portion of it was bandwagon garbage .... there was also some that got slighted only because it never got properly "worked" within the club circuit. Clubs could only develope so much new music into their programs .... Plus the sound was always changing ... disco was progressive. No DJ was looking for more of the same ... always wanting to break the latest ... So yes the music was different as time passed. I never noticed it therefore getting worse though .... finding plenty I liked even thru and past the glut ... :D *****
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October 17th, 2006, 09:05 PM
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Again, Comiskey didn't help matters, it only aggravated the situation; I even remember some discoers jumping ship back to rock or R&B simply because they felt disco had got too stupid and out of hand as most of them said. As far as Disco after SNF, there were great songs as you say and I agree, however, this is also when inundation began and the stupid, stilly disco records entered the market, and also overglut (over commercialism began). Wasn't the "Romeo and Juliet" album produced by Alec R. Costandinos? You said Boris Midney. Was there another Romeo and Juliet album? This being said, Disco as we knew it was forced underground, the name became abhoring and a "byword" as they say, the trend and fad disappeared, and the whole structure of the dance community changed including the sound. I can't believe I'm addressing this subject almost 30 years later because that was an extremely sad time for me and my friends. We lost a friend, and it was hard for me for a long time afterwards; I was really into the music and the scene as a whole. If only Dahl truly knew what he did to people. But anyway, I'm just glad that dance music stayed, name change or not. Garry:D
__________________ KEEP DANCIN Y'ALL! REMEMBER, DISCO IS STILL ALIVE, IT HAS DROPPED IT'S NAME AND CHANGED IT'S FACE OVER THE YEARS TO FIT EACH GENERATION AND TIME, BUT THE MISSION REMAINS THE SAME; TO KEEP EM DANCIN! BE SURE TO CHECK OUT MY ARTIST PAGE AT: http://www.garrybcoston.us http://WWW.FRESHSTARTREFERRAL.COM CLICK ON THE ABOVE URL AND DONATE TO THE HOMELESS AND NEEDY! THANK YOU. Garry |
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October 17th, 2006, 10:06 PM
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| Re: When Exactly Did Disco Die and When Was the Beginning of the End? This is an interesting topic. Over the years, I've read things like, "There was a time when disco ruled the entire Billboard Top 40". Throughout the disco era as we knew it, that never truly happened. However, the period from April-July 1979 was a very fertile period for disco on the uppermost region of the Billboard Hot 100. One thing that is often overlooked is the saturation of disco or disco-inspired songs that charted in late 1975 and early 1976. Though many of these songs didn't make the Top 40 (in fact, most only charted in the lowest portions), it is interesting to see how powerful the crossover was. This was the Top 10 the week ending November 22, 1975. 1. THAT'S THE WAY (I LIKE IT) 2. FLY, ROBIN, FLY 3. WHO LOVES YOU 4. ISLAND GIRL 5. THE WAY I WANT TO TOUCH YOU 6. THIS WILL BE 7. FEELINGS 8. LOW RIDER 9. SKY HIGH 10. LET'S DO IT AGAIN Even though this was before disco as a whole had gotten inside the mass public's consciousness, you cannot ignore the influence disco had on the Top 10 that week. Compare that chart to this one dated December 24, 1977, two weeks after Saturday Night Fever premiered and eight months after Studio 54 opened: 1. HOW DEEP IS YOUR LOVE 2. YOU LIGHT UP MY LIFE 3. BLUE BAYOU 4. (EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND) BACK IN LOVE AGAIN 5. IT'S SO EASY 6. BABY COME BACK 7. DON'T IT MAKE MY BROWN EYES BLUE 8. HERE YOU COME AGAIN 9. SENTIMENTAL LADY 10. SLIP SLIDIN' AWAY From the look of this listing, adult contemporary was heavily represented here. Not one track on this list had a serious leaning towards disco, not even the Bee Gees' ballad which was #1 this week. During a period when disco was everywhere, such as late 1978, this Top 10 list showed the picture. December 2, 1978: 1. YOU DON'T BRING ME FLOWERS 2. MAC ARTHUR PARK 3. HOW MUCH I FEEL 4. LE FREAK 5. I JUST WANNA STOP 6. DOUBLE VISION 7. I LOVE THE NIGHTLIFE 8. TIME PASSAGES 9. (OUR LOVE) DON'T THROW IT ALL AWAY 10. SHARING THE NIGHT TOGETHER This chart was an even blend of disco and adult contemporary. It's amazing to see how musical styles had changed drastically, even with the disco elements included, within a three-year span. Lest we should forget 1976, the year that disco made the front page of Newsweek (November 22, 1976) and New York (June 7, 1976), this was the Top 10 on October 23, 1976: 1. IF YOU LEAVE ME NOW 2. DISCO DUCK 3. A FIFTH OF BEETHOVEN 4. LOWDOWN 5. STILL THE ONE 6. PLAY THAT FUNKY MUSIC 7. (SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE) SHAKE YOUR BOOTY 8. SHE'S GONE 9. LOVE SO RIGHT 10. ROCK 'N ME
__________________ "Everyone knows the real reason why you got that part it was the time you spent on that casting couch"--Antoine Merriwether "Excuse me, Miss Thing, but both of us spent time on that couch"--Blaine Edwards |
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October 17th, 2006, 11:11 PM
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| Re: When Exactly Did Disco Die and When Was the Beginning of the End? "Salsoul1975," your post is a great one and interesting at the same time; but I was hoping you'd also list the charts for 1979 and early 1980 (Top 10 of the Top 40 hits) to compare with your other lists in order to reveal the complete waning and disappearance of disco altogether. That's not important though. I see your point. Though disco was successful, and it was the music of that time and era, it did not rule the waves as people thought (as far as the top 10 on the top 40 charts), but I think it ruled the waves more on a nightclub and party level. But I'll bet if you look at the top 100, or even the top 50 of those years disco would have been all over the place. Think so? Check it out. Garry 
__________________ KEEP DANCIN Y'ALL! REMEMBER, DISCO IS STILL ALIVE, IT HAS DROPPED IT'S NAME AND CHANGED IT'S FACE OVER THE YEARS TO FIT EACH GENERATION AND TIME, BUT THE MISSION REMAINS THE SAME; TO KEEP EM DANCIN! BE SURE TO CHECK OUT MY ARTIST PAGE AT: http://www.garrybcoston.us http://WWW.FRESHSTARTREFERRAL.COM CLICK ON THE ABOVE URL AND DONATE TO THE HOMELESS AND NEEDY! THANK YOU. Garry |
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November 13th, 2006, 11:20 AM
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| Re: When Exactly Did Disco Die and When Was the Beginning of the End? The Knack's "My Sharona" owes much of its success to disco. There was a concerted effort by radio programmers, djs and punk and rock music fans to turn that song into a huge hit as a sign that a new direction in music was underway. Donna Summer, Village People and many of the legendary djs, arrangers and producers behind-the-talent who helped make the songs what they were also deserve much blame in disco's demise. If fear of losing their credibility and chart standings hadn't forced them to make drastic changes in their careers, disco may have rebound. But because much of the high quality talent abandoned it, disco went underground, evolved and has become the mere trend it's remembered as today. |
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November 13th, 2006, 11:27 AM
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