Was Van McCoy gay ?

[Mixmachine]

Originally Posted by remicks

Surely you'll recall the rockers' strategy to turn the population at large against liking disco !! ( pssst ----It's fag music. You're not a fag are you ? )

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this is pure gay militant reviosionist bullshit!!! , and a fine example on how gay militants try to high jack and own up "Disco" music to this day, just because Gays played R&B music in clubs doesn't make it "Gay Music". Rockers didn't like Disco because they were not into dancing, dressing up or spending big bucks on fancy drinks and cover charge, and Disco was destroying their hippie "Rock world", tha's all. And the use of the word "Suck" in the "Disco Sucks" backlash had nothing to do with gayness, it was a common term used in every day life to express dislike or disapproval at the time. Any other interpretation is modern revisionist BS desingned to accomodate political Agenda's of the past and present.

Ps: Your average Rocker didn't even know of the existance of Gay Discos, especially in the mid west, this was at the time (mid to late 70's) a deep subculture out of sight and hidden in the Warehouse distrits of big industrial cities phenomenun.

[discokicks]

Originally Posted by Mixmachine

Rockers didn't like Disco because they were not into dancing, dressing up or spending big bucks on fancy drinks and cover charge, and Disco was destroying their hippie "Rock world".

Oh, come on! That's some story to have come up with. I know that lots of guys hate to wear suits and ties but I didn't see them band together, throwing their dress-up clothes onto a football field and setting them ablaze. And keep in mind, that gays were not the ones to label disco as 'fag music' or 'music for queers'.

And 'gay militants'?! In the 25 years that I have been out, I have yet to see anything that resembles a 'gay militant'.

[Disco Funk]

I warned you guys it would get heated, but nooooo, you wanted to play with the fire. :)

Disco Funk

[Mixmachine]

Originally Posted by Mixmachine

Rockers didn't like Disco because they were not into dancing, dressing up or spending big bucks on fancy drinks and cover charge, and Disco was destroying their hippie "Rock world".

Originally Posted by discokicks

Oh, come on! That's some story to have come up with. I know that lots of guys hate to wear suits and ties but I didn't see them band together, throwing their dress-up clothes onto a football field and setting them ablaze. And keep in mind, that gays were not the ones to label disco as 'fag music' or 'music for queers'.

I’m sorry to hear you think so, as I assure you my opinions are based on first hand real life experiences and not on revisionist books or online articles. You’re obviously one of the millions of victim of a well coordinated campaign that long ago began to twist the “facts” with future political gain in mind.

Maybe the words of one of biggest promoters of the “Disco Suck” campaign will change your misguided views???

“ I gotta to be honest with you, it wasn’t so much about the music as it was about the life style, the whole white three piece suit thing. In my mind when I think about what Disco demolition was about, it was about eighteen to twenty four year old disenfranchised Rock guys like myself not wanting to have to look like that to get laid.”

Steve Dahl (organizer of the Disco Demolition night)

Quote Taken from a Rolling stone article

www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/pageid/rs.Home/pageregion/single1/id/6294549+disco+sucks+news&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2]Rolling stone article[/url]

Even the club drugs of preference were different, Rockers liked qualuds (sp) and grass while Disco heads prefered Blow and speed pills.

And keep in mind, that gays were not the ones to label disco as 'fag music' or 'music for queers'.

Disco began to be considered gay music by many around the early 80’s as “High energy” music was almost exclusively spun in the ever increasing number of Gay clubs, because some of the *old* high BPM count Euro Disco of yester year was still played in this clubs some of this music was also dubbed "Gay disco" by the youngsters that came of age during the 80’s.

[Mixmachine]

Originally Posted by Disco Funk

I warned you guys it would get heated, but nooooo, you wanted to play with the fire. :)

Disco Funk

hey, it takes two to tango right? besides is the least I can do to set the record straight (no pun intended :P ) since this exclusive association of Disco Music with gayness is so prevalent in today's society that I hardly ever tell anyone I was a DJ to avoid the arguments and the rolling eye balls. :roll:

[remicks]

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Mixmachine ......... I was there too .

There is nothing revisionist about what I experienced first hand.

I stand by my statements .

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[Disco Funk]

I know this is hijacking a hijacked thread, LOL!, but going back to the Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes thing, I think I discovered what made him suddenly go 'ga ga' over her. Around the same time, there were rumors of him and Rob Thomas of Matchbox 20 being an item. Sure, they could have just been rumors, but if you remember how Tom Cruise behaved, it seemed like he was trying really hard to look like he was in love with someone of the opposite sex. In other words, he was over compensating. To make things even more weird, 'Katie Holmes' is an anagram for 'Tom Likes A He' (I didn't come up with that). Nicole Kidman is also rumored to be gay, and her long time friend Naomi Watts is more than just a friend. They say a picture says a thousand words, and you can see in these ones they seem to be more than just friends just from the body language:

http://khaokal.netslums.com/nicomi/gallery.html#globes

Disco Funk

[remicks]

Originally Posted by Mixmachine

this is pure gay militant reviosionist bullshit!!! , and a fine example on how gay militants try to high jack and own up "Disco" music to this day .....
.... I don't understand . Who are these "gay militants" and what's in it for them to " high jack disco" .... as you put it ????
just because Gays played R&B music in clubs doesn't make it "Gay Music".
true! ... tell that to the "disco sucks " crowd .
Rockers didn't like Disco because they were not into dancing, dressing up or spending big bucks on fancy drinks and cover charge,
..... that's funny ..... from 1976 thru 1979 they did exactly that ...
and Disco was destroying their hippie "Rock world", tha's all.
that's true !!! :lol: :lol:
And the use of the word "Suck" in the "Disco Sucks" backlash had nothing to do with gayness, it was a common term used in every day life to express dislike or disapproval at the time.
I never thought about the choice of the word "sucks' .... but now that you bring it up .... ya, the use of that particular word is really suspicious too !!!
Any other interpretation is modern revisionist BS desingned to accomodate political Agenda's of the past and present. ..... What agenda gets accomodated by this exactly ?????
nope ....the straight clubs were just as popular as the gay ones until late 1979 when word spread like wildfire that disco was for fags ..... you know , ... like those Village People guys. ( I think the Village People's high visability played into this a lot ) And that's when there was this mass exodus from the clubs.

Or .... if we're to have it your way Mixmachine .... suddenly all the straight guys that had been going to the clubs , all woke up in 1979 and said , "Wait a minute ...what the heck am I doing , going to discos ??? I just remembered ... I only like rock music !! I'm a rocker !! Disco sucks !! " :P

Ps: Your average Rocker didn't even know of the existance of Gay Discos, especially in the mid west, this was at the time (mid to late 70's) a deep subculture out of sight and hidden in the Warehouse distrits of big industrial cities phenomenun.
Exactly ...and at that stage ... when they were ignorant of such things ... disco was cool with them .... that is until word finally got around about such things as those big city fag clubs .... in 1979 ...again just like I originally said .... .that's when the word got put out by the anti-disco crowd that pssst... disco was fag music :evil:

I wasn't stating here that disco music was gay music. That's a different discussion for a different time. I'm stating that in 1979 there became the perception that disco music was gay music. ( An intentional perception fueled by the rocker crowd )

Big difference ....

Originally Posted by mixmachine

it's the least I can do to set the record straight (no pun intended ) since this exclusive association of Disco Music with gayness is so prevalent in today's society that I hardly ever tell anyone I was a DJ to avoid the arguments and the rolling eye balls.

Well .... you only have the uptight , narrow-minded , straight , "disco sucks" crowd to thank for that !!!

To try to blame hillbilly behavior on "gay militants " .... now that's revisionist BS :P

And ...
I agree , those assholes and their asshole offspring , still exist in today's society to this day !

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[DiscoMan]

Mixmachine has a legit. point. And one which I experienced first hand. How many times have I described those who didn't like Disco, and on this board too.

[QUINNY]

Only in the U.S.A. fellas, only in the U.S.A.

Outside of the U.S. Gayness wasn't ever part of the Disco equation.

[remicks]

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Originally Posted by QUINNY

Outside of the U.S. Gayness wasn't ever part of the Disco equation.

Quinny ..... by your particular version ..... disco wasn't even part of the disco equation !! :lol:

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[paul]

Originally Posted by remicks

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Quinny ..... by your particular version ..... disco wasn't even part of the disco equation !! :lol:

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:lol:
Ouch! But you are right about Quinny though. :D

[QUINNY]

I thought you guys came here to learn....NOT burn!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

But seriously guys, Gayness didn't figure in the Disco equation outside the U.S. You had that whole Gay sociopolitical thing going on, way before we did.

[DISCODISK]

Originally Posted by QUINNY

Only in the U.S.A. fellas, only in the U.S.A.

Outside of the U.S. Gayness wasn't ever part of the Disco equation.

ohhhh groan i cant believe youre still on this trip :roll: an old quinny never changes his spots :lol:
now mr quinny i know you are gonna kick off and accuse me of misquoting you,but didnt you once say at one of your spanish hot-spots you had a 60 percent gay audience :o i can remenber at the time thinking how did he work that out [unless you were counting all the fan queens coming through the door :lol: ] so tell us more about it [or kick off one or the other,this forum is not in its best period at the moment so a quinny 'kick off' at this time may do us all good :lol: :lol: ]

[hutter]

This may be just a rumor, but I heard that Sylvester was gay. It could have just been a nasty lie told by a bitter ex-girlfriend, who was stiffed out of child support. I hope it's just a rumor. Nothing said masculinity and pure testosterone like Mr. Sylvester.

Guys, who cares who was or wasn't gay? I'd rather not know, since it's none of my @#$% business, or anyone elses.